Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 18th Apr 2006 17:49 UTC
Linux Efforts to bring glitzy new graphics to Linux are fueling an old conflict: Does proprietary software belong in open-source Linux? The issue involves software modules called drivers, which plug into the kernel at the heart of the open-source operating system. Drivers let software communicate with hardware such as network adapters, hard drives and video cards.
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sappyvcv
Member since:
2005-07-06

Users want convenience not politics.

So yeah, 'nuff said.

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rattaro Member since:
2005-08-22

"Users want convenience not politics.

So yeah, 'nuff said."

Thanks. I didn't realize you knew every single user in existence and can speak for them all. Btw, freedom does not equal politics, and I never even mentioned politics. If having principles equal politics, then I would agree that many people don't have many politics. But I would still disagree with that position, and so do many kernel developers. Just because everyone else jumped off a bridge, doesn't make it right. Sometimes it's important to stick to your politics, and sometimes not. If you don't understand that, then I guess you can always say, "'nuff said," which seems silly after the next person posts.

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sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

No, but I guarantee you that speaks for the majority.

Refusing propietary drivers because they are not open source IS politics, whether you like it or not.

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ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

So do children, what's the point?

Everyone wants a free lunch, doesn't mean scarcity will magically go away.

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sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Meaning, "linux" wants the desktop, it has to give users what they want.

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archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

Users want convenience not politics.

Not all users want the same thing. To argue otherwise is a mistake...

That said, there's nothing illegal about using proprietary drivers with a GPL kernel...you just can't redistribute it. So all we need is a script that checks for a Nvidia or ATI chip at install time, download the latest driver and sets it up automatically. That way you're not distributing illegal kernels, and yet you allow users to make best of their hardware.

Meanwhile, I don't believe ATI and/or Nvidia when they say that they can't open-source their drivers for competitive reasons...it's the cost/performance ratio that makes the card, and not the drivers. Now, if they use some licensed technology, then it makes more sense, but the least they could do is reveal what licensed code they use, so the community could try to provide open alternatives.

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sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

I should have said "a good majority of users".

And if you want to gain a good chunk of market share, you have to cater to the majority of users.

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