Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 18th Apr 2006 17:49 UTC
Linux Efforts to bring glitzy new graphics to Linux are fueling an old conflict: Does proprietary software belong in open-source Linux? The issue involves software modules called drivers, which plug into the kernel at the heart of the open-source operating system. Drivers let software communicate with hardware such as network adapters, hard drives and video cards.
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RE[9]: My answer is YES
by cr8dle2grave on Tue 18th Apr 2006 22:35 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: My answer is YES"
cr8dle2grave
Member since:
2005-07-11

Which brings me to my point: it's about user expectations, not hardware support.

Mac user's don't expect their Mac to support every periphereal under the sun, so why should Linux users expect the same? I surmise that actual Linux users don't actually, that point of view is one that is usually espoused by Windows users when giving reasons for why they won't switch to Linux. Which, for what it's worth, I consider to be a perfectly valid reason.

It's not a lack of hardware support which holding back Linux on the desktop, but the expectation of some potential users that Linux be a seemless drop in replacement for Windows.

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RE[10]: My answer is YES
by sappyvcv on Tue 18th Apr 2006 22:43 in reply to "RE[9]: My answer is YES"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

It's not a lack of hardware support which holding back Linux on the desktop, but the expectation of some potential users that Linux be a seemless drop in replacement for Windows.

And where does the blame lie?

Linux hardware support is good, I won't argue that. But this is a roadblock that is hurting it. It could gain a leg on Microsoft if the leaders weren't so adament about everything being "pure" and "Free".

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RE[11]: My answer is YES
by archiesteel on Tue 18th Apr 2006 22:46 in reply to "RE[10]: My answer is YES"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

It could gain a leg on Microsoft if the leaders weren't so adament about everything being "pure" and "Free".

That's the point, though, they aren't (whoever those "leaders" are...)

As I've indicated in my previous post, this has NOTHING to do with market share. I don't know of a single person who's told me: "yeah, I would use Linux, but the NVIDIA/ATI drivers aren't installed by default."

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RE[11]: My answer is YES
by Omega Penguin on Tue 18th Apr 2006 22:46 in reply to "RE[10]: My answer is YES"
Omega Penguin Member since:
2006-02-12

Excatly.Most non-programmers want free,not Free.

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RE[11]: My answer is YES
by cr8dle2grave on Tue 18th Apr 2006 23:02 in reply to "RE[10]: My answer is YES"
cr8dle2grave Member since:
2005-07-11

It could gain a leg on Microsoft if the leaders weren't so adament about everything being "pure" and "Free".

Well, given that there are some rather loud and obnoxious detractors, I don't see a lot real resistance to Nvidia and ATI out there. The Xorg team, for instance, works quite closely with both manufacturers.

That said, I think the way forward for Linux desktops is to push Linux's strengths rather than trying create a Windows work-a-like. Linux desktops make sense in some, but by no means all, corporate environments where the desktops are all centrally managed. Linux really begins to make sense in a thin client environment. I use Linux on my home computer, but I really fail to see the sense in pushing Linux as general purpose consumer OS. I say let MS and Apple fight over that space. It has razor thin margins and it's a support nightmare as well.

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RE[10]: My answer is YES
by SpasmaticSeacow on Wed 19th Apr 2006 15:50 in reply to "RE[9]: My answer is YES"
SpasmaticSeacow Member since:
2006-02-17

That's not a fair comparison. Save for USB and firewire devices, Macs by design support a very small minority of hardware. In limiting supported hardware, Mac can assure the quality of that hardware's support for the OS.

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RE[11]: My answer is YES
by cr8dle2grave on Fri 21st Apr 2006 18:12 in reply to "RE[10]: My answer is YES"
cr8dle2grave Member since:
2005-07-11

That was my point. I wasn't claiming Linux is better because it supports far more hardware than a Mac. I only wanted to demonstrate that lack of harware support isn't really the problem with Linux desktops, it's the expectations on the part of some potential users that Linux absolutely must support every single random periphereal supported by Windows in order to be a viable replacement. Mac users don't have that expectation and neither should Linux users.

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