Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Apr 2006 14:52 UTC, submitted by aaronb
Apple "The 17" iMac has almost everything a silencer could want. It's quiet, efficient, good value, and can even run Windows. the iMac is a computer for the connoisseur, just as Apple intended. Power users, enthusiasts, anyone who wants to tweak the hell out of everything should probably stick to building their own systems - they'll be happier molding the computer to their own personal quirks. However, for someone who wants to use a computer, not take up computer building as a hobby, the iMac is among the best there is."
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Another apple story
by Wintermute on Fri 21st Apr 2006 20:22 UTC
Wintermute
Member since:
2005-07-30

Is this me or does anyone else feel that osnews is turning more and more into Apple-ubuntu news? While I have nothing against ubuntu news as I perosnally feel it fits in with the topic of Operating Systems. But this article seem out of place. Why is osnews posting a review of a custom built computer? I never noticed reviews of DELLs or HPs. Just because it's an Apple? I don't think thats very fair, if you are going to cover desktop computers, why not cover cool stuff in the non-Apple world as well. Maybe an overview of a custom build PC with mods and stuff (a suitable title would be: How to spend the money that didn't go on Apple's marketing to build a better PC).

The price comparison was awrful and some parts of the review were so so. One thing that Apple sucks at price. I built my rig with the following specs:

AMD X2 3800+
2gb PC3200 RAM (dual channel mode)
NEC ND4550A optical drive
Gigibyte Nforce4 SLi mobo (external firwire card included in the price)
GeForce 6600GT
250 SATA drive
$100 Thermaltake case with LED and frontal USB/Firewire

And that cost me only around $1050. Granted I already have a nice 19" LCD (don't know how much it costs, I wasn't the one buying it), but hey look at the specs. More RAM, larger HDD, better processor. Plus the rig is expandable, can I add another GFX card to the mac?

I never understoof the fascination of many of osnews' reader with Apple. You would except people who go to a site like osnews to be enthusiast who would enjoy building a PC from scratch just for the fun of it. I never understood the excuse regarding time. "But with Mac, you dont have to spend hours building your PC." If you can't spend time on tech enthusiasm, what the hell are you doing on osnews.com? The whole point of this site is to 'waste' your time exploring alternative OSs. Any 'sane' person would consider this a waste of time.

Ignoring the time arguement (which shouldn't be applicable to osnew's members - you're tech geeks for f--ks sake, not your average joe), you can build a better box (both in terms of performance and aestetic qualities) for lower price than mac any day.

P.S. If time is such a big issue, why not just get a local computer enthusiast to build an AMD rig for you? It will still work out cheaper than the mac.

RE: Another apple story
by Innova on Fri 21st Apr 2006 20:56 in reply to "Another apple story"
Innova Member since:
2005-09-30

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Is this me or does anyone else feel that osnews is turning more and more into Apple-ubuntu news?
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It is just you. There is an option that you can exercise. If you don't wish to read an article about a specific topic, don't bloody read it. Next option, don't bloody post about it.

Some of us who come here regularly may have different likes/dislikes than you. I, quite frankly, like reading some of the many varied opinions you get from many varied reviews.

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RE[2]: Another apple story
by Wintermute on Sat 22nd Apr 2006 09:04 in reply to "RE: Another apple story"
Wintermute Member since:
2005-07-30

@ aaronb + Innova

Sorry this probably sounded a bit trollish, but what I was trying to explain was that I feel its unfair that we give additional coverage to Apple products just because it's an Apple. As far as I am concerned this a site about Operating System, while the review does cover applications and operating systems, primarily this is a hardware review. And as far as I remember we didn't have dektop reviews from other vendors. So why are Apple's products mentioned? I don't mind seeing articles about OS X (both good and bad) and technical discussion related to the the Apple world, but I do think it is unfair to promote Apple. Apple is just another company and it's not like they are doing anything special for the computing world.

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RE: Another apple story
by aaronb on Fri 21st Apr 2006 21:04 in reply to "Another apple story"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

>>>Is this me or does anyone else feel that osnews is turning more and more into Apple-ubuntu news?

Its just you I'm afraid. See here for a summery by % of news.

http://www.osnews.com/cloud.php

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RE: Another apple story
by aaronb on Fri 21st Apr 2006 21:12 in reply to "Another apple story"
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

The price comparison was awrful and some parts of the review were so so. One thing that Apple sucks at price. I built my rig with the following specs:

Does the rig you stated have the same form factor ?
Does the rig you stated the same power usage ? (EG < 70 watts)
Is rig you stated as quiet ? (22 dBA@1m full load).

The PC I type on was home built but it does not mean I'm blind to other types of PC.

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RE[2]: Another apple story
by Wintermute on Sat 22nd Apr 2006 09:00 in reply to "RE: Another apple story"
Wintermute Member since:
2005-07-30

Please don't make it seem as if these factors are what give Apple the edge. If I wanted I could easily build a system with a similar form factor, but that wasn't my aim. What exactly do you mean by 'EG < 70watts'? I have a 400watt supply, but thats to take in the extra power required for another gfx crad. And please don't start taking about how low power suage is crucial for a a desktop. If you're worried about the electricity bills, you would build your own microATX case and you certainly wouldn't waste money on an Apple product. Silent computing is also an option if you need in custom built rigs.

In the end you can still do everything the Apple does, only better and cheaper with a computing rig. Granted, you need to spend time on building the rig, but this place is called osnews for a reason...

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