Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Apr 2006 22:08 UTC
Mac OS X Secunia said there are potential vulnerabilities in the Mac OS X operating system, first noticed by Tom Ferris. The firm described the holes as 'highly critical', meaning that systems could be compromised if crooks dive in. Secunia said the potential holes are in version 10.4.6, but other versions might be affected too.
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RE: 131 advisories?
by suryad on Sat 22nd Apr 2006 15:22 UTC in reply to "131 advisories?"
suryad
Member since:
2005-07-09

I will have to agree with this one. Everyone knows XP was and sorta is quite security hole-ridden. But the fact is a lot of them are getting fixed. I am not sure but if it is with everyone, but just like an experienced Mac user can make their system quite secure, so can an experienced XP user. I have used both Mac and XP and they are both great in their own right. Mac has the advantage of being based on Unix and all its proven track record whereas XP is written by a company who just wants to make more money and thats their bottomline. Its all about using the tools. OSes are tools for everyone if they stop to think about it. You can make your tools better and Linux provides that quite awsomely with all the package management, reconfigurations, kernel compilations and the fact that the darn code is available for anyone to mess with! That is great!

I have been using XP because I am so used to it, and yes I hate it that it has all these wholes but boy has it improved than when it first came out. And so has Mac. There is no one who will say that the first release of OS X was not without its problems. Same thing with XP. I am just trying to not blindly defend XP but to ptovide a balanced argument I guess. OS X is great but a bit slow for the stuff I need to do, and XP is simple but not in the class OS X is. But there are great 3rd party tools like nLite and so on that allow you total control over XP and that is great IMO. That is the next best thing to be given all the code. Microsoft is trying to patch things as well as they can and I have to say they have done a satisfactory job except for the unpatched vulnerabilities...its as if the whole world knows about these vulnerabilities other than Microsoft!

Basically my advice for those who are so paranoid about their security is to go and use the age olf implements of abacus, paper and pencil. The Roman and Greek civilazations were far more splendid in a way than ours and they did it without computers! Bottomline is there will be vulnerabilities, there will be flaws, there will be companies writing bad code on purpose to eke out more money from support. Software is a man-made construct and as such as it is, its imperfect. Deal with it. There is no one tool for the job.

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RE[2]: 131 advisories?
by kaiwai on Sun 23rd Apr 2006 05:52 in reply to "RE: 131 advisories?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Mac has the advantage of being based on Unix and all its proven track record whereas XP is written by a company who just wants to make more money and thats their bottomline.

Apple is concerned about making money; thats why they chose not to re-invent the wheel, use a proven concept, and build a great operating system off that; if the technology is out there in source form (Mach/BSD), then why the hell not use that, and lower the costs of development?

Microsoft on the other hand already had a UNIX licence; hell, they sold a UNIX of their own for several years - Xenix, which was based off the AT&T line of UNIX.

Microsoft chose, even with this great basis for a good operating system, to go out and re-invent the wheel, and create their own operating system - NT; the net result is that they isolated themselves from the rest of the technology world; whilst the UNIX companies were learning from security mistakes, improving scalibility, Microsoft was being the proverbial nigel no mate, off with its own marbles, refusing to work with any one.

Here we are now today with the world split into two camps; on one side you have the UNIX world, consisting of the commercial UNIX's and opensource implementations (BSD/Linux), and on the other side we have the Windows world; a half baked, compatibility riddled, security prone API (win32), running ontop of a NIH (Not Invented Here! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here ) kernel which was developed as nothing more than a multimillion dollar 'screw you' to the UNIX world.

Fast foward to today, and with all the millions Microsoft have chucked at the problem, Windows NT still hasn't distablised the UNIX establishment; they may have forced the UNIX world to lower their prices for hardware and software, but at the same time, companies are still willing to spend a premium for the superior solution.

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RE[3]: 131 advisories?
by MikeekiM on Sun 23rd Apr 2006 12:54 in reply to "RE[2]: 131 advisories?"
MikeekiM Member since:
2005-11-16

So, tell them to bring back Xenix.

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