Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Apr 2006 14:05 UTC, submitted by CrimsonScythe
Apple The 17" MacBook Pro has just been released. The 17" model has Firewire 800 and 8x dual layer Superdrive, both of which the 15.4" version lacks. The new MacBook Pro was presented during the NAB2006. The machine will cost $2799,- in the US, or round and about EUR 2879,- (differs per country) in the EU, or GBP 1999,- if you live in the UK.
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What A Joke
by MediaSex on Mon 24th Apr 2006 15:10 UTC
MediaSex
Member since:
2006-02-08

HP dv8000t 17"
Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2600 (2.16 GHz)
2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1024MB)
17.0" WSXGA BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
120 GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2
FREE Upgrade DVD /-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
FREE Upgrade to Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG w/Bluetooth
256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
$1,929.99

The computing world isn't waiting around for Apple to sell them overpriced x86 boxes.

And with iPod sales slowing massively...

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RE: What A Joke
by modmans2ndcoming on Mon 24th Apr 2006 15:21 in reply to "What A Joke"
modmans2ndcoming Member since:
2005-11-09

Can it book OS X and Windows and Linux?

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RE[2]: What A Joke
by linux_yogi on Mon 24th Apr 2006 17:10 in reply to "RE: What A Joke"
linux_yogi Member since:
2006-03-21

Can it book OS X and Windows and Linux?


no sir it can't book os x and windows

boot - yeah sure, why not ?

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RE: What A Joke
by raxrat on Mon 24th Apr 2006 15:33 in reply to "What A Joke"
raxrat Member since:
2006-01-05

"The computing world isn't waiting around for Apple to sell them overpriced x86 boxes. "

Yes, the world would be better off saving money and going with Dell. Oh wait....

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/cto_xpsnb_m1...

If you don't want to follow the link, let me save you the trouble. The Intel Core Duo XPS laptops cost $2,600 to $3,855. I don't think you realize how expensive the Core Duo chip is compared to the G4 1.67 GHz in the old 17 inch powerbook have.

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RE[2]: What A Joke
by Moulinneuf on Mon 24th Apr 2006 18:02 in reply to "RE: What A Joke"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/notebooks?c=u...

Inspiron E1705 : 999$
Inspiron E1505 : 799$

BTW he showed a Intel Core duo system too from HP. Saying they dont come with OS X + software and same hardware is a valid argument , your point that the core DUO is pricier when Apple deliver it when its INTEL made and everyone use them is just bulshit.

BTW DELL offered to ship MAC OS X on its hardware , Apple refused.

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RE: What A Joke
by polaris20 on Mon 24th Apr 2006 16:44 in reply to "What A Joke"
polaris20 Member since:
2005-07-06

The computing world isn't waiting around for Apple to sell them overpriced x86 boxes.

And with iPod sales slowing massively...


Cool!! When did HP start selling laptops that boot OSX? I can't wait to try it. =/

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RE[2]: What A Joke
by Moulinneuf on Mon 24th Apr 2006 18:03 in reply to "RE: What A Joke"
Moulinneuf Member since:
2005-07-06

Apple is refusing to license there OS , I am surer that HP would offer it , just like Dell and Gateway.

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RE[2]: What A Joke
by jwhazel on Mon 24th Apr 2006 17:43 in reply to "What A Joke"
jwhazel Member since:
2005-10-07

In other news, Porsches still cost significantly more than Fords, Pier 1 cost more than Walmart, and Coke cost more than RC cola. OSNews poster MediaSex baffled as to why people don't always buy the cheapest thing, drives away angrily in '79 pinto. More at 11:00...

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RE[3]: What A Joke
by MediaSex on Mon 24th Apr 2006 17:52 in reply to "RE[2]: What A Joke"
MediaSex Member since:
2006-02-08

Porsches?

MacBook Pro == Porsche 924

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Baaad reply, jwhazel...
by ssme on Tue 25th Apr 2006 16:56 in reply to "RE[2]: What A Joke"
ssme Member since:
2005-07-06

there is still significant difference between underhoods of Porsches and Fords, also in _raw_ performance.

which is not the case for apple vs hp here.

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RE: What A Joke
by HopHead on Mon 24th Apr 2006 22:09 in reply to "What A Joke"
HopHead Member since:
2006-01-31

The HP is also 1.3 lbs heavier and half an inch thicker (thats 50% thicker than the mac). To some people that dosent matter. To others it does. I guarantee it costs more to put the same spec inside a smaller, lower weight package.

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RE: What A Joke
by Fuji257 on Tue 25th Apr 2006 01:23 in reply to "What A Joke"
Fuji257 Member since:
2006-01-24

HP dv8000t 17"
Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2600 (2.16 GHz) same

2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1024MB) better

17.0" WSXGA BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050) MBP has higher res

120 GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive same

Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2 OS X gives you the FULL version, not a watered down. You need to upgrade this to PRO to compete

FREE Upgrade DVD /-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer same

FREE Upgrade to Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG w/Bluetooth same

256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400 comparable
$1,929.99

Now add Firewall/antivirus, and an equally competing product for:
Firewire800
iLife 06 (iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD, GarageBand, iWeb)
Front Row with Remote
Photo Booth
Comic Life
Omni Outliner
Built in high-end Web Cam
iCal
Xcode2
iChatAV
A better warranty
Don't forget to uprade to XP Pro and PAY EXTA for a back up CD
Have fun setting it all up too.

Let me guess? You don't WANT all those features? Just the one's that happen to be on the HP? Nice. A fcking iBook G3 has more and better features for half the price. Get real.

>>The computing world isn't waiting around for Apple to sell them >>overpriced x86 boxes.

Let me know when they start.

>>And with iPod sales slowing massively...

"Apple sold 1.1 million Macintosh computers and 8.5 million iPods in the quarter, which marks only a 4% growth in Mac hardware but a 61% growth in iPod sales from the year-ago quarter."

http://www.computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile/laptops/story/0,10...

Uh, yeah that's a massive slow down. Due to your outstanding market studies it's no wonder you think an HP laptop can compare to a Mac.

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RE: What A Joke
by gdanko on Tue 25th Apr 2006 14:55 in reply to "What A Joke"
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

XP Home.. thats about as useful as a shotgun blast to the head.

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RE: What A Joke
by gdanko on Tue 25th Apr 2006 15:24 in reply to "What A Joke"
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

It would seem you're the joke. The MacBook Pro can boot basically any x86 OS available. Show me an HP, Sony, or even a mighty Dell that can do that. I know MANY people who have both a Windows machine and a Mac for the widest app availability.. Or because they want to play PC games. Now that person can have both on one machine. In that regard, the MacBook Pro is a much better value than any other Core Duo machine on the market.

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RE: What A Joke
by ma_d on Tue 25th Apr 2006 18:38 in reply to "What A Joke"
ma_d Member since:
2005-06-29

My roommate just bought one of the 15" ones. Let me tell you, it's expensive, but not at all overpriced...

Apple puts a lot of fit and finish work into their notebooks that no one else does. Things like ambient light backlight changing, putting the charge led on the cable instead of on the side of the machine, magnetic detaching power hookups, solid construction, a quality lcd that's not pinched, lack of hooks sticking out on the top of the monitor.

If those sort of things are of no value to you, fine, but to some people those are worth money.

Edited 2006-04-25 18:38

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