Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 31st Jul 2005 11:47 UTC
Apple Industry watchers have noticed a "halo" surrounding Apple's iPod: The popular music player is helping to bring new users to the company's Macintosh line of computers. However, could the uncertainty surrounding the Mac's upcoming switch from PowerPC to Intel processors take the shine off that halo?
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RE[8]: im buying
by KellyMcNeill on Sun 31st Jul 2005 20:02 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: im buying"
KellyMcNeill
Member since:
2005-07-27

"You don't understand how it works in the typical corporate office environment. It's huge amounts of paper work and retraining for admins, informations workers, and other IT staff. You don't just go about this willy nilly."

That's typical for when new software is used because it would be a large departure from what they were previously using. Assuming the applications are the same, the retraining argument is still relatively negligable.


"In most office situations someone isn't given their choice of computer because they "prefer" it."

And that was because there was only one operating system that was considered by these companies suitable for desktop use. Now there are a few.


"Having a homogeneous environment obviously has lots of advantage"

And also has disadvantages as well such as its easier to explain a network of similar computing setups.


"Bringing in Macs doesn't offer much advantage."

Increased productiveity for those that prefer it.

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RE[9]: im buying
by Lumbergh on Sun 31st Jul 2005 20:12 in reply to "RE[8]: im buying"
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2005-06-29

That's typical for when new software is used because it would be a large departure from what they were previously using. Assuming the applications are the same, the retraining argument is still relatively negligable.


You still don't get it. It's a huge cost that a corporate office would rather avoid.

"In most office situations someone isn't given their choice of computer because they "prefer" it."

And that was because there was only one operating system that was considered by these companies suitable for desktop use. Now there are a few.


No, people don't get to choose their workstation just because there might be something else that might be able to do the job.

"Having a homogeneous environment obviously has lots of advantage"

And also has disadvantages as well such as its easier to explain a network of similar computing setups.


Hehe, you say its a disadvantage, then go ahead and reaffirm my argument. Do you know the definition of homogeneous?

"Bringing in Macs doesn't offer much advantage."

Increased productiveity for those that prefer it.


It doesn't fly like that in a corporate environment. You don't go to the IT guys and say I'll be more productive using a Mac because that's what I prefer.


Once again, your only argument why people would bring in Mac is people might prefer it. It just doesn't work that way in a corporate office environment.

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RE[10]: im buying
by KellyMcNeill on Sun 31st Jul 2005 22:20 in reply to "RE[9]: im buying"
KellyMcNeill Member since:
2005-07-27

"You still don't get it. It's a huge cost that a corporate office would rather avoid."

Its a huge cost when its dealing with changeing software because thats the paint at which productivity is judged. The way people use computers in companies makes the switching of OSes negligable (as far as training cvosts are concerned) because basic navigations is very similar.


"No, people don't get to choose their workstation just because there might be something else that might be able to do the job."

The reason for that really only have to do with IS/IT people's biases than anything else. They know Windows, so thats what they recommend. More and more of them are using Linux... so it would be natural to think that it would increase in desktop use too, but Linux is still not quite as refined as Windows and OS X is so it has a way to receive the same benefit that Windows did. Now that more IS/IT people are considering Macs... its only natural to see a increase in corporate Mac migration because it, like WIndows is appropriate for desktop use. Watch and see, in the coming months there will be more reports of Mac moving into corporate enviornments.


"Hehe, you say its a disadvantage, then go ahead and reaffirm my argument. Do you know the definition of homogeneous? "

There are advantages for keeping platforms different as well as keeping them diverse. You were making it sound as if keeping them same offered the only advantage. I was simply countering that argument.


"It doesn't fly like that in a corporate environment. You don't go to the IT guys and say I'll be more productive using a Mac because that's what I prefer. "

Of course not. They need to be familiar with it first. As more IS/IT people become familiar with it, you will see increased acceptance of OS X in corporate enviornments.


"your only argument why people would bring in Mac is people might prefer it"

No, I said that the advantage is that they would be more productive in it.

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