Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Apr 2006 20:29 UTC
Legal Microsoft told a European Union court on Monday that regulators had completely misunderstood thriving competition in the software market in issuing a landmark antitrust ruling against the giant U.S. company. But an internal Microsoft memo presented by a coalition of critical companies suggested founder Bill Gates was told that a strategy used to crush the rival Netscape browser could also take down the leader in streaming media, RealNetworks' RealPlayer.
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RE: So the real news...
by deathshadow on Tue 25th Apr 2006 13:37 UTC in reply to "So the real news..."
deathshadow
Member since:
2005-07-12

>>is that people actually use RealPlayer?

Amazing that isn't it? The only sites that seem to use it are fetish porn (the type of stuff Eric Cartman's mom would be in), but there you go... It's Europe. but then I say the same thing about quicktime so...

You know, MS is a business, to thrive (truly thrive) you have to do a better job than your competitors... As much as people may not want to admit it, IE 5.5 WAS a better product than Netscape 4.x (much less the abortive 5.x/6.x disaster), and until the past two years (well, maybe 3) Mozilla was SO FAR behind IE in functionality and stability we wouldn't even be HAVING this conversation.

Meanwhile you have RealNetworks, who Microsoft could have crushed simply by HAVING a product... which they already did in the form of media player - it's a functionality expansion over the win 3.1 version - little more.

Can't compete by making a good product? Have the government do it for you!

As to the EU, why aren't half the linux distributors out there under prosecution for bundling totem or XMMS, or apple up before you for giving away the itunes software for free and bundling it up with their OS? Because they aren't the leading vendor?

If this was cops on the street we were talking about, it's called 'selective enforcement' - usually goes hand-in-hand with bribes and dirty cops.

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RE[2]: So the real news...
by testadura on Tue 25th Apr 2006 14:05 in reply to "RE: So the real news..."
testadura Member since:
2006-04-14

Which part of the word MONOPOLY don't (some of) you understand?

You keep saying that also linux distro makers and Apple should be prosecuted as well since they also bundle some applications with their OS.
They don't have a monopoly, thats why.

Why in god's name should you defend MS? If there was no such thing as the Mozilla foundation, we were all forced to use IE 6.0... Heck, I bet MS would bundle IE 6.0 with Vista. No competition, no innovation.
Imagine IE 6 being a final release ;)

Edited 2006-04-25 14:18

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RE[3]: So the real news...
by deathshadow on Tue 25th Apr 2006 17:32 in reply to "RE[2]: So the real news..."
deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

>> Why in god's name should you defend MS?

Why in god's name would you want a world where laws do not apply equally? Means should you ever BECOME rich, you're open for prosecution... Dangerous, DANGEROUS talk here people. Does this mean that if Linux or apple gain dominant market share, you want to shoot them down too? When you prosecute someone for doing something everyone else is allowed to get away with - that's as much of a crime as letting an individual get away with it because they are rich, priviliged or 'know the right people'.

We're basically talking the same type of bull here spouted by feminazi's, 'equal rights' protestors, etc. They don't actually WANT equality, they want dominance.

I'm no fan of Microsoft, but I also don't have the rabid hatred that makes people auto-vote down anyone who dares say 'wait a minute' and vote up anyone who attacks them, no matter how nonsensical the post.

"Laws must apply equally, or they mean nothing. Laws that unjustly favor one party or the other are exactly that; unjust." - John Adams.

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RE[2]: So the real news...
by Amaranth on Tue 25th Apr 2006 14:09 in reply to "RE: So the real news..."
Amaranth Member since:
2005-06-29

As to the EU, why aren't half the linux distributors out there under prosecution for bundling totem or XMMS, or apple up before you for giving away the itunes software for free and bundling it up with their OS? Because they aren't the leading vendor?

Apparently you don't know what "anti-trust" laws are. It's perfectly legal for Apple or $RANDOM_DISTRO to bundle anything and everything because they don't own the market. And, in the Linux case, they aren't even bundling their own player, they're choosing the best one from the community.

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RE[2]: So the real news...
by glarepate on Tue 25th Apr 2006 21:54 in reply to "RE: So the real news..."
glarepate Member since:
2006-01-04

... is that www.cbsnews.com is a fetish porn site in Europe????

The only sites that seem to use it are fetish porn (the type of stuff Eric Cartman's mom would be in), but there you go... It's Europe.

Thanks for offering your perspective on this. It's hysterical!!!

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