Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Apr 2006 20:59 UTC, submitted by Jane Walker
Oracle and SUN "Perhaps the changing of the guard at Sun Microsystems was no shock to some. Now pundits can dish over whether or not it will be the start of a new era at Sun - and one that might mean more collaboration with Microsoft."
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I believe so
by Jody on Wed 26th Apr 2006 22:10 UTC
Jody
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2005-06-30

Schwartz was trying to make the impression that profitability won't come with just job cuts.

I believe Sun will be expanding their x86 line, but also eventually offering Windows on them as a way to increase volume.

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RE: I believe so
by segedunum on Wed 26th Apr 2006 22:42 in reply to "I believe so"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I believe Sun will be expanding their x86 line, but also eventually offering Windows on them as a way to increase volume.

I will quote Sir John Harvey Jones, certainly one of if not the greatest businessmen and industrialists ever:

"Being yet another producer of components for the same product as everyone else is simply not enough. If you are playing that game you are straight into the necessity for greater and greater volume, together with ever decreasing price - and sooner or later this will lead to bankruptcy."

The thing that also amuses me greatly about this so called analyst is that he thinks that pre-installing Windows on Sun boxes will stem the flow of defections from Solaris to Linux. Right...

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RE[2]: I believe so
by Jody on Wed 26th Apr 2006 23:10 in reply to "RE: I believe so"
Jody Member since:
2005-06-30

"Being yet another producer of components for the same product as everyone else is simply not enough"

I understand this, but unfortunately enough for Sun they are in a Lose/Lose situation. It is bank on Solaris/SPARC and continually report a loss as companies selling high volume x86 solutions erode your sales, or offer your own Solaris, Linux, Windows/x86 solution to prevent your customers from defecting to your competitor for those solutions instead.

Windows currently holds the number 1 place in server sales (source: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=12760 ) and it is not even offered by Sun.

The market is shifting to lower cost x86 solutions and this shift will take place with or without Sun.

Someone also said: "If you can't beat em, join em."

Edited 2006-04-26 23:19

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RE: I believe so
by kamil_chatrnuch on Wed 26th Apr 2006 23:01 in reply to "I believe so"
kamil_chatrnuch Member since:
2005-07-07

sun is offering ms windows on sun x86 machines for quite a long time. and they offer paid support for it too.

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RE[2]: I believe so
by Jody on Wed 26th Apr 2006 23:18 in reply to "RE: I believe so"
Jody Member since:
2005-06-30

"sun is offering ms windows on sun x86 machines for quite a long time. and they offer paid support for it too."

This is not really true. They offer Windows on Workstations, but not on servers.

For their Sun Fire (AMD) servers you may select Solaris, SUSE, or RHEL.

Source: http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStore&cmdStart...

Their x86 servers are certified to work with Windows but this is not the same thing as offering (or supporting) it.

Edited 2006-04-26 23:23

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