Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th May 2006 20:19 UTC, submitted by Mitarai
Gnome "The Nautilus program in GNOME is not only the default file manager, it creates and manages the desktop. While it looks simple on the surface, there is a lot of hidden power under the shell. The latest version of Nautilus is 2.14.0, which is included in Fedora Core 5. That's the one I poked with a stick."
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Missing feature, and missfeatures
by John Nilsson on Fri 12th May 2006 23:10 UTC
John Nilsson
Member since:
2005-07-06

While it works most of the time here I really miss more plug-ins for it.

EOG and gThumbs, f.ex, should just be nautlius plug-ins. And so should many things be. Why can't it open archive directly f.ex?

Nautilus is to focused on beeing a "file"-manager but files arn't that importat, user objects are, and collections of those even more so.

Nautilus should be able to handle music albums, photo albums, play lists, autotools projects and that kind of stuff. It should be able to manage my source code projects as UML class diagrams.

From what I've read it IS designed for beeing this kind of platform. But for some reson this doesn't seem to take off. Maybe an easier API is needed?

nzjrs Member since:
2006-01-02

The Gnome developers have made a concious decision to not shove everything-and-the-kitchen-sink into nautilus. Its a chicken an egg problem, while users are not used to the "everythings an object" philosophy why muddle the functionality of nautilus, which currently works really well as a file manager, leaving applications to deal with the objects.

Look how it worked out in windows XP. They made the shell function as an image viewer. In Vista they have now backed this out and ship an image viewer application.

Its a tough one because where do you draw the line? Do you put a simple text editor in nautilus, what about a image viewer, what about a music player, what about gaim, hey what about evolution, cause emails are files-are-objects. I am being rediculous but you see my point......

If you just shoved every feature under the sun into Nautilus then pretty soon you would end up with, gee i dunno, Konqueror ;-)

But I do agree that nautilus extension API could do with a rethink. Make the whole thing more pluggable. At least then the users have easier ways to plug what they want into nautilus

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John Nilsson Member since:
2005-07-06

Its a tough one because where do you draw the line? Do you put a simple text editor in nautilus, what about a image viewer, what about a music player, what about gaim, hey what about evolution, cause emails are files-are-objects. I am being rediculous but you see my point......

That's just the thing. You never draw "the line". You keep the metaphor consistent. The whole concept of "applications" is broken to begin with, but thats an other story.

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GatoLoko Member since:
2005-11-13

"Nautilus should be able to handle music albums, photo albums, play lists, autotools projects and that kind of stuff. It should be able to manage my source code projects as UML class diagrams."

The day that nautilus makes all those things I will leave it and will look for a new file manager.

If you want an all in one tool you must search in a diferent place, nautilus is a "FILE MANAGER" and it must manage files, not file content.

Edited 2006-05-13 16:10

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John Nilsson Member since:
2005-07-06

And what is a file?

Why do you want to "manage" files?

From what I've hear files are a system abstraction. A unified interface to the underlying system. Now the unix thing about "everything is a file" might ba good way to keep the system consistent, flexible and usable. But then everything should BE files. Contacts, albums, emails, links, playlists. And a file manager should thus be the interface to the system.

If EVERYTHING really is a file, then the file manager would manage EVERYTHING. If not, well the metaphor is broken, and the file manager has no place at all in the user interface.

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