Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 14th May 2006 15:02 UTC, submitted by Matthew Oliver
GNU, GPL, Open Source "We have received an email claiming that the Kororaa Xgl Live CD is in violation of the GPL. I have been researching this as much as I can, asking many prominent people in the Linux world for their opinion. So far, no-one has agreed with the email, however a few have said to seek legal advice, which I cannot afford to do (but can't afford not to do, if I want to continue the Live CD). As such, the Live CD has been put on hold, until I can sort this out. If I cannot sort this out I will be forced to cease work on the Xgl Live CD."
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Angel--Fr@gzill@
Member since:
2005-12-23

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On the other hand I would like to mention that I consider "UNACCEPTABLE" that a member of the staff of OSNEWS could be at the same time, "MODERATOR, READER AND POSTER, JUDGE AND POLICEMAN of the OSNEWS Site". I am talking obiously about the intervention of Thom Holwerda.

I have nothing personal against Thom Holwerda. His work realised in OSNEWS is very good in many occasions, though, sometimes TOm reflects his young age and inexperience, despite being well literated in general Computers and IT.

I would like to say to TOM anyway, that:

You are wrong in your views in this tread, yet you take advantage of your position as "STAFF member of OSNews" and post sometimes "too" regularly, without the other posters having the capability to MOD you (up or down).

I find that indecent, and obviously UNFAIR. Besides, with your posts, being part of the STAFF, and with your
attitude, you could influence, or probably you in fact influence other "less experienced or less 'aware' readers of OSNEWS". This could be considered a "Trollism"...

So, PLEASE if You want to take part in the Threads, specially in the flamewars, post as an "AVERAGE READER" of OSNEWS, without "PRIVILEGES", so People can MOD yOU UP, OR DOWN, as they wish!!! If not, try to refrain yourself and do not post.

It would be much more FAIR...
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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

1) I am not Tom. My name is Thom. Moot point, you'd say, but after 21 years of people spelling my name wrong, it's starting to piss me off. It's really simple: just put an 'h' between the 't' and the 'o'. That way, you get 'Thom', my name, which is in no way related to 'Thomas' (my full name is Thom Arvid Holwerda).

Moot point, but it needed to be said. Excusez-moi.

2) You're relatively new here, so I pardon you for not knowing this-- but it has been explained numerous times that there's a reason why you cannot moderate staff comments. We know out of experience that there are enough people who will mod us, the staff, down, just because we are the staff. Therefore, we cannot be moderated. If you want proof of this, go visit my blog, and read the 'Expose Kelly' page linked to in the sidebar.

We do not make our own accounts because that would involve too much trouble on our end. You see, we cannot log in from the front-end as normal users do; in order to protect our accounts we must login via a troublesome, difficult way via the OSNews.com back-end. It would simply involve too much work to log in/out every time, just because 2 people and a cow do not understand why we, the staf, cannot be moderated.

And lastly, which renders all this discussion useless: OSNews is OUR website. NOT yours. Hence, WE get to decide who's playing, and by what rules. If you have a problem with that, fine. Leave.

3) Why is my view wrong, but yours correct? Just because I disagree with you, I am wrong, and should not post in this thread? I am no troll, I'm just someone who disagrees with your viewpoint. You better accept people do not always agree with you. Welcome to the real world, sonny.

4) Judging by the, err, spam-like way you post, I am inclined to assume your age still includes either a 2, 3, or a 4 in conjunction to a 1 up front. In essence, for the way you write your post, I could give you an official warning, or even disable your account, but hey, I ain't so bad.

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Angel--Fr@gzill@ Member since:
2005-12-23

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"Welcome to the real world, sonny"

"I am inclined to assume your age still includes either a 2, 3, or a 4 in conjunction to a 1 up front. In essence, for the way you write your post, I could give you an official warning, or even disable your account, but hey, I ain't so bad"

"OSNews is OUR website. NOT yours. Hence, WE get to decide who's playing, and by what rules. If you have a problem with that, fine. Leave"

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LOL after reading your anwers to my moderate petition I can only conclude a couple of things/

- 1 - You are right , Your name is Thom... Sorry that sometimes I Spell it right (Thom), and otheres wrong (Tom)8

- 2 - Your answers are poor, arrogant, empty, childish and even Fascists...

I am not "sonny"... ( older than you, and wiser...)
There are many, many people posting here with for more knowledge and experience like you.

At 21 I also (probably everybody) used to think I was absolutly right in my views. I still wastn't half the arrogant that you are... Later I realised how wrong I was in many views... Time + knowledge teach a lot.

"OSNews is OUR website. NOT yours. Hence ...Leave".
What can I say about tht bullshit... You still have to learn that a media, TV, newspaper, WebSite... are nothing without its readers, without the public...

You threat me??? ("official warning, or even disable your account") for telling that you'd do better in getting mod or not posting???; for saying that you can not be at the same time "Judge, Police, Poster etc ...)

C'mon, Grow up! have you ever herard about respect, democracy, people's rights...

Is not the fact that you may diagree with me or any other in some topic... Is the way you do it! It is the means you use to impose your views! You like to play with advantage, hein? then you may be right... It is your WebSite not the Readers of OSNEWS Website!

Then, according to you there is not a comunity of readers that make this Site valuable. It is just your mean to Show off!
Have you herard about "Journalism ethics", about Social behaviour, Social Psicology, about, social rights?

I guess you only accept the reality as a "vertical structure", And you are on the TOP, of course... Stalin had the same view, and Pinochet, And you can bet they had no doubt at all about thier rightness...

Hey, maybe you ain't so bad. But you are arrogant, and still too young to have a real knowledge of many things in IT, and in this world.
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zegenie Member since:
2005-12-31

Sometimes I wish I could mod staff comments up, though.

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