Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th May 2006 22:13 UTC, submitted by adstro
Java "Sun today announced that Java Platform, Standard Edition 5 is now available for redistribution by GNU/Linux and OpenSolaris operating system distributors under the new Operating System Distributor's License for Java (also known as the 'Distro License for Java' or DLJ). Developed in consultation with, and for use by, the various GNU/Linux communities, the new license allows distributors to ship Sun's Java SE 5.0 Java Development Kit and Java Runtime Environment as installable packages for their operating systems." At the same time, Sun also promised to open-source Java.
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by Angel on Tue 16th May 2006 23:12 UTC in reply to "_ º º _"
Angel
Member since:
2005-07-07

There are other interpreted languages today which are much better in every way.

Like? ...I remind you that Java is a language and an entire framework. Name one framework that is better.

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by chicobaud on Wed 17th May 2006 00:34 in reply to "RE: _ º º _"
chicobaud Member since:
2005-08-14

OK. You are right but...

Python, Tcl and komodo (from ActiveState.com) do everything better *for me* (and many others), or do the same that Java does with less pain !
And it's cross-platform.
And it's faster than Java.
And it's easier and simpler to maintain.
And you can find other Langs and Framework that are better and more efficient than Java for multi-purpose dev.
It's just that Java has had a lot of ads and hype.
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RE[3]: _ º º _
by Angel on Wed 17th May 2006 01:13 in reply to "RE[2]: _ º º _"
Angel Member since:
2005-07-07

Python, Tcl and komodo (from ActiveState.com) do everything better *for me* (and many others), or do the same that Java does with less pain !
And it's cross-platform.
And it's faster than Java.
And it's easier and simpler to maintain.
And you can find other Langs and Framework that are better and more efficient than Java for multi-purpose dev.
It's just that Java has had a lot of ads and hype.


I don't know what kind of work you do with either of those, but they don't compare in any way to Java. Python is a nice scripting language but its in a different league.
I dont know if you noticed but Java is also cross platform and in NO WAY is Pythong or TCL faster than Java.

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by taos on Wed 17th May 2006 01:17 in reply to "RE[2]: _ º º _"
taos Member since:
2005-11-16

Well, make up your mind:
either,
1) There are other interpreted languages today which are much better in every way.
or,
2) Python, Tcl and komodo (from ActiveState.com) do everything better *for me* (and many others)

If the latter, then no comment.

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by ahmetaa on Wed 17th May 2006 03:15 in reply to "RE[2]: _ º º _"
ahmetaa Member since:
2005-07-06

you are not serious on those right? did you actually say Python and TCl is faster then Java? and easy-simpler to maintain for multi purpose dev? what are you smoking?

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Python faster than Java???! Not a chance!
by reddog on Wed 17th May 2006 08:09 in reply to "RE[2]: _ º º _"
reddog Member since:
2006-04-20

Python, Tcl and komodo (from ActiveState.com) do everything better *for me* (and many others), or do the same that Java does with less pain !

How much simpler can you get than Netbeans 5 and Studio Creator 2?


And it's faster than Java.

Don't mean to be rude, but this isn't slashdot, you'll need to provide a link to some numbers.
Considering that JDK 5 is competitive with C++ (and thrashes mono), I seriously doubt your claims:
http://www.shudo.net/jit/perf/

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