Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 17th May 2006 15:00 UTC, submitted by jeanmarc
Mac OS X "Thanks to pirates, or rather the fear of them, the Intel edition of Apple's OS X is now a proprietary operating system. Mac developers and power users no longer have the freedom to alter, rebuild, and replace the OS X kernel from source code. Stripped of openness, it no longer possesses the quality that elevated Linux to its status as the second most popular commercial OS."
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RE[2]: Huh?
by robertojdohnert on Wed 17th May 2006 23:30 UTC in reply to "RE: Huh?"
robertojdohnert
Member since:
2005-07-12

Its because of the fact it was BSD licensed, Apple has the true freedom to decide not to share should they choose not to. With the GPL it would have forced Apple to do something it didnt want to do. But the truth of the fact is that Mac OS X is just another UNIX fork.

" Well that's what can happen when software is BSD (or BSD compatible) licensed. With the GPL this couldn't have happened. Please, let's dont turn this into another flamewar though, i do not mean to too, just stating the facts."

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RE[3]: Huh?
by dylansmrjones on Thu 18th May 2006 02:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Huh?"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

True freedom? *LOL*

GPL would not have forced Apple to anything at all. They can change their license whenever then want, to the extent they are the copyright holders. If they're not the copyright holders, then of course they don't have that right (according to the GPL), but that's only fair when they are gaining from other peoples free work ;)

But one can ALWAYS change the license term for the future, for all code where one is the copyright holder.

The BSD does not allow me to change who is the copyright holder. It does however allow for sub-licensing (which the GPL doesn't, I might add).

Mac OS X isn't Unix btw.

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RE[4]: Huh?
by Moulinneuf on Thu 18th May 2006 05:47 in reply to "RE[3]: Huh?"
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2005-07-06
RE[4]: Huh?
by Ford Prefect on Thu 18th May 2006 09:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Huh?"
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2006-01-16

> GPL would not have forced Apple to anything at all

Sure it would have, because Apple was not the copyright holder. This discussion was not about which license _Apple_ chose, but about wether Apple would have chosen another kernel (like Linux) if it wasn't GPL. That was the starting point of the whole discussion as you can read back.

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RE[4]: Huh?
by eggs on Thu 18th May 2006 14:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Huh?"
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2006-01-23

Actually... if you GPL a version of your software, for ease of use, lets call this version 1.0. So you have version 1.0 of MegaProggy GPLed, people like it, yada yada yada. Now you develop a new version that you will release as 2.0 of MegaProggy. However, you decide you don't want it to be GPL any more, you want it to be proprietary software (closed source). Well thats too bad. version 1.0 is GPLed and version 2.0 is a derivative work of 1.0 and thus cannot be closed source. However, you could make version 2.0 licensed under a GPL compatible license.

The only way to move GPLed software to closed source is to start over from scratch.

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