Linked by alcibiades on Tue 30th May 2006 20:40 UTC
In the News Dell and its business model has been the focus of a lot of comment on Apple oriented forums in recent months. The Dell model is said to be unviable, and Dell's recent news is said to prove this. A limited endorsement of sorts for the so called "end to end model" in music has been published by Walt Mossberg in the WSJ. Recently a real sky-is-falling article with this theme has appeared here. This is a subject that matters. If the advocates of the so-called "end to end model" are right, it implies that the industry structure which allows us all to source hardware from wherever we want, and run a variety of OSs on it, is in danger.
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atsureki
Member since:
2006-03-12

They have it.

It's called an audio CD. You can make one right from iTunes.

Or use the analog hole and your cutting-edge 8-track recorder. Whatever suits your needs.

If you want the full quality of the original file you downloaded, you have to play it through iTunes or an iPod, or just leave the house and get a real CD, but it's not like people are buying iPods because they're locked in. They buy them because they're better. Fairplay just offers much more flexibility than WMDRM ever will.

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cr8dle2grave Member since:
2005-07-11

They have it.

Only if you find a further degradation in sound quality an acceptable trade off for the interoperability you've had all along. I don't and I see no reason to believe that consumers in general will over the long run.

Fairplay just offers much more flexibility than WMDRM ever will

False. On the technical side, MS's DRM scheme offers a greater range of enforcable policies than FairPlay, making it more attractive to publishers, and it's available on a far greater range of devices, which will eventually win over consumers.

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Quoth_the_Raven Member since:
2005-11-15

Hello! McFly! Anybody home?

I think the previous poster was referring to more flexibility for the consumer. Guess what? He's correct.

Your statement about MS's DRM only amplifies why Apple's scheme has been more successful. MS provides more flexibility for the content provider, therefore, it creates more confusion for the consumer.

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Bit_Rapist Member since:
2005-11-13

False. On the technical side, MS's DRM scheme offers a greater range of enforcable policies than FairPlay, making it more attractive to publishers, and it's available on a far greater range of devices, which will eventually win over consumers.

Not gonna happen. MS DRM is dead, just no one bothered to announce it yet.

I worked with Windows Media DRM (Janus to be exact) on a development level and with customers directly. Its a wash. The SDK is about as a solid as using quicksand for the foundation of a house. Look at the support forums of any company using windows media DRM and you'll see post after post about licensing issues, tracks that suddenly become unplayable, device licenses that expire without rhyme or reason, Burn rights that fail. Its a wash out.

Customers get confused with all the different 'policies'. They don't get that one track might be transferable to a device, but not burnable to CD, or burnable to CD but not transferable to a device.

Windows DRM is NOT reliable and it has so many licensing options that it does nothing but confuse users.

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atsureki Member since:
2006-03-12

Only if you find a further degradation in sound quality an acceptable trade off for the interoperability you've had all along. I don't and I see no reason to believe that consumers in general will over the long run.

Which is why I buy CDs, and then rip them in iTunes so I can listen to them on my iPod. People who buy from the iTMS have their own reasons. For one, it's instant music that may be hard to find in stores. Or maybe because they just want one song and not a whole album. Or again, because you get the neat previews and then can't resist the impulse buy. But I think the big seller is that "plays for sure" is a fact, not a slogan. If they currently or ever don't have an iPod, they can burn a CD for the car, or hook up a Mini or any other computer to a stereo. It's a few clicks to move their entire downloaded library to a new computer. Also, on top of being the best service, iTMS has a great amount of momentum. Other music download services may be gone in the morning.

False. On the technical side, MS's DRM scheme offers a greater range of enforcable policies than FairPlay,

What good is a range? Customers don't get to choose which DRM policy their files will have on them. Fairplay has one policy, and it's very pro-consumer.

making it more attractive to publishers,

Because they can more effectively restrict the customer's freedom. This is why a "range" is bad.

and it's available on a far greater range of devices, which will eventually win over consumers.

You'd think so, but it ain't happening. The iPod gets more popular with each iteration. MP3 players that aren't iPods are a true anomaly in the wild.

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