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RE[2]: always the same defects
by stenka phocean on Thu 1st Jun 2006 14:35 UTC in reply to "RE: always the same defects"
stenka phocean
Member since:
2006-05-17

I could give many details.

ATI drivers are shit, Canon printers or scanners as well. Turboprint is a real shame. I won't even talk about bluetooth management, TNT cards, etc, etc.
So many hours passed to configure... and sometimes it is just impossible.

Open Office ? I miss many functions of Powerpoint and Writer is good but far from the interface of Office (even in its 2000 version).

I am getting dispointed. I was very enthousiastic but I realize the improvements are slow and it won't be a killer OS before the release of Vista.

It works perfectly fine on my laptop, but I am a professional. I mean I still can't convince my wife, my parents or my friends to switch to Linux.

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OMRebel Member since:
2005-11-14

My ATI Radeon 9600SE runs great under Breezy with the ATI drivers.
My Canon i960 prints perfectly through TurboPrint.

I don't have bluetooth, so I can't comment on that.

My AverMedia PCI 550 works perfect, and I even have my remote working with it. I can change my desktop over to MythTV in an instant as well.

Powerpoint? Impress has always worked fine for me at work. Haven't had a powerpoint presentation that I can't view yet in the couple of years running OOo.

Which functions, specifically, of PowerPoint do you miss that aren't available in OOo?

The only thing I've found that miss in Office is MS Access, as OOo's Base hasn't yet matured enough.

My 4 year old nephew runs Breezy to play his games. He can type in his name to log into the computer He knows what to click on to bring up FireFox. It takes him to Nickelodean's website so that he can play his games.

It's obviously easy enough for anyone to use. It sounds more like a comfort zone problem.

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stenka phocean Member since:
2006-05-17

I don't think you are honnest with turboprint. I have a canon i350 and as long as I print A4 pages, OK.
Put have you tried to print photo quality ? other format pages ?
It is easy : doesn't work at all. And the interface is a pity. I don't call it "working perfectly well".

ATI radeon ? the dual screen is buggy and you have to edit your xorg.conf file.
And check this bug : https://launchpad.net/bugs/47371
I contributed to this report. I can't launch Open Office since the last update.
And you call it a good driver ?
And Impress is not totally functional. Dia as well as NVY are stinky.

It means on many point, I can't be productive.

As a network and system engineer, I am very very happy with Linux. As a geek too. But as an office worker, not really.

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andrewg Member since:
2005-07-06

Powerpoint? Impress has always worked fine for me at work. Haven't had a powerpoint presentation that I can't view yet in the couple of years running OOo.

Which functions, specifically, of PowerPoint do you miss that aren't available in OOo?


There is nothing wrong with OO. It just can't compare in so many ways to MS Office though. You may not need all the things Office has or it may not be worth the money. It also only runs on Windows and Mac and uses a closed file format (This is a big problem) but it is the most full featured Office package out there.

Apart from the simple tick mark approach to feature comparison MS Office just offers so many things you appreciate when you have to do something different or very specific or quickly. Examples?

1) OLE is much better in office.
2) If you have ever used 'Paste special' in office especially Excel you will know that for quickly working with a lot of data MS Office is a lot better than OO.
3) Control over printing is a lot better in MS Office.
4) If you have worked with Powerpoint and Impress you will know Impress is kludgy. Simple things like scaling are clumsy and slow. I used it for all my presentation when doing my MBA so I am not making this up. These qualitative differences show up throughout both suites. MS has done a lot more useability studies than OO and have put a lot more man hours into it. And it shows!

When I am at work and I have to clean 80,000 records for insertion into a relational database I will choose Excel. And I have used both suites extensively.

P.S. I know excel only handles 65000+ rows right now so I handle my data in two batches in the above example. So when the limit is increased that will be an improvement.

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RE[4]: always the same defects
by MechR on Fri 2nd Jun 2006 04:22 in reply to "RE[3]: always the same defects"
MechR Member since:
2006-01-11

"Powerpoint? Impress has always worked fine for me at work. Haven't had a powerpoint presentation that I can't view yet in the couple of years running OOo.

Which functions, specifically, of PowerPoint do you miss that aren't available in OOo?"

Hm, I was cursing Impress just today while trying to save some printing paper...

I would like an outline view that doesn't suck. It should do as Powerpoint does and shrink all the text to reasonable standard sizes, as opposed to just leaving everything in varying degrees of "huge." Barring that, they could fix the crash bug that seems to result from highlighting a set of bullets and trying to change the font size.

I'm not sure whether Powerpoint has this, but a way to print outlines by the page rather than by the slide would also be nice. Either that or some dotted "page lines" in the outline view to show where page separations are. Or a print preview function. I always end up having to guess where the page separations are when printing in outline format.

On a related note, Calc can't seem to make an XY scatter plot with two different data sets for X and Y, rendering it useless to high school students everywhere...

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