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My problem is that it is now 3 gig and still doesn't come with cool software to play with.
And my point is that those 3 GB include many debugging symbols (debugging symbols take a LOT of space, and we linux users are smart enought to use apt-like systems instead of fscking .isos to deliver software) that you don't get with a linux distro and drivers that you don't get with a linux distro.
Edited 2006-06-08 02:43
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Jody: "It isn't the fact that it is 3 gig that I have a problem with.
My problem is that it is now 3 gig and still doesn't come with cool software to play with.
They could bundle software for common tasks that is spyware free, for instance."
Roughly speaking - you are actually getting all the features of Media Center and all the Features of Tablet PC operating systems combined.
The Media Center features and tablet features are very slick and very cool all by themselves.
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Debug symbols, WTF?, there is no way that takes up so much space, what are you smoking?
What actually comes with Vista, a office suit?, seems to me it's code bloat and you can expect as XP does to grow to at least 4-5Gb.
But hey we all have 200Gb hard drives, dual layer dvd writers and 1Gb of ram right?
Member since:2005-07-06
> Debug symbols, WTF?, there is no way that takes up
> so much space, what are you smoking?
$ g++ -o parse parse.cc -I /usr/include/boost-1_33_1/ -Os -g
$ ls -l parse
-rwxr-xr-x 1 libero Nessuno 5672196 Jun 8 17:40 parse
$ strip parse.exe
$ ls -l parse
-rwxr-xr-x 1 libero Nessuno 314368 Jun 8 17:41 parse
A 1800% increase in size sounds like "much space" more to me, indeed.
That's with cygwin, btw, so one can't say it's ELF's fault. Notice how it's compiled with -Os too.
Edited 2006-06-08 15:47
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2005-07-08
1) They are probably including all the debug symbols.
2) XP used to come in a CD but that doesn't means it "fits" in a CD. Back in 2001, there were not too many DVDs. For XP, Microsoft probably had to take out many things. Specially weird drivers, but there's also many "kits" that you had to download from Microsoft's web page.
Now that DVDs are really mainstream, Microsoft can afford to put a DVD of crap there. Extra drivers, for example. Who cares, really? - it's just one DVD