Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 10th Jun 2006 22:28 UTC
Apple Last week's column was basically a rant about things that bothered me about Ubuntu's GNOME/Linux combination. Besides the usual 'I do not experience the problems you have, so you must be an anti-GNOME troll!' and of the course the ever-present 'How on earth can you complain about Free software!', it did what is was supposed to do: bring problems under developer's direct attention (for instance, Evolution's UI maintainer emailed me, asking for more clarification). Now it's Apple's turn. Here is a list of problems I find the most annoying about Apple's Mac/MacOS.
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Configuration Files
by steved3298 on Sat 10th Jun 2006 22:56 UTC
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2006-05-23

When you drag an application to the trash, it leaves behind a trail of configuration files and the like all over the OS.

This is pretty much the same with every operating system. Ever looked under /etc or Application Data? They are usually strewn with files from every application ever installed.

RE: Configuration Files
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 10th Jun 2006 23:03 in reply to "Configuration Files"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

This is pretty much the same with every operating system. Ever looked under /etc or Application Data? They are usually strewn with files from every application ever installed.

And just because every other OS has it justifies it how, exactly?

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RE[2]: Configuration Files
by dylansmrjones on Sun 11th Jun 2006 00:13 in reply to "RE: Configuration Files"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Nice to see you bring it up.

The only reason I can see for not removing configuration files would be that I'm uninstalling an application in order to reinstall it, and therefore do not want to lose my configuration.

However, it shouldn't be that much of a problem making it optional to remove (or leave) configuration files.

I wonder what your directory structure looks like since it can make kids cry ;)

EDIT: Not much fun for me in this year's WC. Denmark did not qualify and my other team lost to Equador... *sigh*

Edited 2006-06-11 00:20

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RE[2]: Configuration Files
by steved3298 on Sun 11th Jun 2006 00:52 in reply to "RE: Configuration Files"
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2006-05-23

It doesn't justify it, I was just pointing out it wasn't a MacOS X specific problem and should be fixed in general.

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RE[2]: Configuration Files
by sbenitezb on Sun 11th Jun 2006 22:43 in reply to "RE: Configuration Files"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Well, it's sometimes useful to have configuration data available for whenever you want to install the application again. With today disk capacity, and config's size, I don't know why should you wonder about it.

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RE: Configuration Files
by somebody on Sun 11th Jun 2006 00:38 in reply to "Configuration Files"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

This is pretty much the same with every operating system. Ever looked under /etc or Application Data? They are usually strewn with files from every application ever installed.

Application data is like that, /etc isn't. You've probably meant home filled with .folders and .files:)

But even this is just in one place and easier to clean up. Apple does install apps into up to 7 different folders. Not even one is deleted when you throw app in trash.

@Thom:
1-9 all real, except you could name better ones than HDD light

btw. "it did what is was supposed to do: bring problems under developer's direct attention" best sentence ever, and do more of these trolling conquests, I for one agree that praising what works is pointless.

Edited 2006-06-11 00:47

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RE: Configuration Files
by felix_stegerman on Sun 11th Jun 2006 00:42 in reply to "Configuration Files"
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2006-06-11

# aptitude remove <package>
# aptitude purge <package>

- Felix

Edited 2006-06-11 00:45

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RE: Configuration Files
by devurandom on Sun 11th Jun 2006 12:16 in reply to "Configuration Files"
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2005-07-06

Isn't the command apt-get purge package under Debian, for example, removing configuration files?

I must admit I never checked thoroughly if it did...

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RE[2]: Configuration Files
by sappyvcv on Sun 11th Jun 2006 16:04 in reply to "Configuration Files"
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2005-07-06

A lot of installers give you the option to remove all profile data when you uninstall it. I'm pretty sure any MSI installer should.

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RE: Configuration Files
by gullevek on Mon 12th Jun 2006 02:31 in reply to "Configuration Files"
gullevek Member since:
2005-07-07

Yes but some OS allow to remove them. eg Debian Package System has a command option that removes _everything_ created by the package or throught the package. For eg a DB like MySQL that even includes the Databases

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RE: Configuration Files
by phoenix on Mon 12th Jun 2006 16:39 in reply to "Configuration Files"
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2005-07-11

Get a better package manager. ;) apt has a purge option to remove all config files so that nothing is left behind when you do an uninstall.

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RE: Configuration Files
by chlordane on Wed 14th Jun 2006 13:02 in reply to "Configuration Files"
chlordane Member since:
2006-05-11

I think you can remove those files man....
Yeah, I am pretty sure you can...

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