Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 13th Jun 2006 22:16 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source It's time for the Windows and Linux communities to drop the religious war and get together in a hurry to put the strengths of each operating system to best use, according to a nationally recognized authority on Windows Server. At the same time, Microsoft has been reaching out to the open-source community to try to find ways to overcome the incompatibilities between software distributed under the GNU General Public License and its own commercial software.
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RE: Translation - others think this too.
by hal2k1 on Wed 14th Jun 2006 03:06 UTC in reply to "Translation"
hal2k1
Member since:
2005-11-11

http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS9006356588.html

"Microsoft doesn't innovate, no matter what their ads may say. They embrace technologies and then extend them by making them incompatible with other technologies. If they can't do that, they try to replace them with other technologies."

"Here's the heart of the matter: Open source developers and leaders should no more trust Microsoft than little Red Riding Hood should trust any wolves she might find in the woods. One way or another, someone's going to get eaten, and in the world of business, there are no friendly wood choppers around to save open-source from the wolf."

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iarann Member since:
2006-05-14


"Microsoft doesn't innovate, no matter what their ads may say.


I would have to strongly disagree with you here, though the rest of your quote you could support. Just take a look at the new UI for Word 2007. Or the whole .NET Framework and CLI technologies. You may not necessarily agree with these things as good or bad, but to say they are not trying to innovate would be inaccurate.


They embrace technologies and then extend them by making them incompatible with other technologies. If they can't do that, they try to replace them with other technologies."


You could make a strong case for this argument, but I would say they are getting better. I think the main thing is how much they can influence the market. Even with their commanding share of the Office Suite field, they still support WordPerfect format for example.


"Here's the heart of the matter: Open source developers and leaders should no more trust Microsoft than little Red Riding Hood should trust any wolves she might find in the woods. One way or another, someone's going to get eaten, and in the world of business, there are no friendly wood choppers around to save open-source from the wolf."


I would agree with this statement, but I think there are a lot more wolves in the woods than Microsoft, some of them FOSS advocates.

As a disclaimer, I use OS X, Solaris, and Arch Linux as my primary operating systems, with only occasionally logging into Windows XP for game purposes.

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hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//I would have to strongly disagree with you here,//

Those were not my words. I gave a link to the article from which I quoted the words.

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Ookaze Member since:
2005-11-14

Just take a look at the new UI for Word 2007

A new UI is not innovation, no more than a new skin for a media player. Sorry, I disagree with you.
Improving usability is not innovation either.

Or the whole .NET Framework and CLI technologies

.NET is no innovation, unless you forget about Java, and "CLI technologies" have nothing innovative about them either : all of this have been done before.

You may not necessarily agree with these things as good or bad, but to say they are not trying to innovate would be inaccurate

If that's what you find innovative, stay on Windows, or you will be overwhelmed by the innovation in FOSS world. In comparison, no, Windows does not innovate at all.

You could make a strong case for this argument, but I would say they are getting better. I think the main thing is how much they can influence the market. Even with their commanding share of the Office Suite field, they still support WordPerfect format for example

Denying reality now ? So they are getting better ? Like with their support of ODF ? Like with CSS2 ? Like with their format to replace PDF ? Like with leaving access to their doc for Samba to improve instead of paying a daily fine (FYI, they prefer to pay a fine) ? Like the "Linux Reference Center" ? Like ...
Hell, I'll stop there, I could go on and on with this. I fail to see what you find is getting better from them. They are more scared, but better ?

I would agree with this statement, but I think there are a lot more wolves in the woods than Microsoft, some of them FOSS advocates

What are you smoking ? FOSS advocates don't allocate $ 1B to prevent FOSS from gaining ground. FOSS advocates don't pay for headlines saying Linux is bad, or for "Linux Reference Center". FOSS advocates don't prevent themselves from playing WMV. You can put disclaimers all you want, your sophistry makes you more a wolf than any FOSS advocate.

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