Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Jun 2006 17:52 UTC
Mac OS X "Apple extended the courtesy of meeting with me one day after my column on the closing of the OS X x86 kernel source code was published online. To sum up Apple's objections, they felt I had given a year-old story a fresh coat of paint and sensationalized it for an audience that wasn't affected by it. Yet no story is more timely, or more broadly relevant, than this one." Tom Yager, who raised concerns over the closed-source Intel half of the MacOS, details why he was so concerned. "The kernel will open up again, this tempest will fade away, and I'll be glad for it. What will continue to concern me so deeply is that Apple thought it would be OK, that nobody would notice or care." Note: The 2nd link was incorrect, it is fixed now. Excusez-moi.
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by transami on Wed 14th Jun 2006 19:53 UTC
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I wonder why Apple's doing this. There must be some reason. I don't see how it's going to help them increase market share though (speaking of which I wrote a little bit on that here: At the very least it means more work for themselves. How can that possibly be a good thing?

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RE: Why?
by Kroc on Wed 14th Jun 2006 20:09 in reply to "Why?"
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Regular people don't refuse to buy a computer because some politics regarding the source code to a part of the OS considering that A: they don't know what the hell a kernal is, B: what an OS is.

On the other hand people still don't refuse to buy Sony stuff because of the Root Kit fiasco. A shame really.

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RE[2]: Why?
by Get a Life on Wed 14th Jun 2006 20:21 in reply to "RE: Why?"
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When a company grows sufficiently large it can become difficult to opt out of purchasing its products without sacrificing semi-unrelated things that you value. In many cases, consumers don't even realize some of the goods that they purchase even come from a company that they have some disdain for. And in other cases they're never aware of the activities that might instigate sufficient resentment to cease purchasing its products. Even despite the online press coverage of the root kit fiasco, I bet you could pick ten random people from the street and they would be completely unaware of it or its implications. After that you would still have to contend with the phenomena you mention where many won't care anyway because it doesn't appear to touch on something that matters to them.

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RE[2]: Why?
by BluenoseJake on Wed 14th Jun 2006 22:10 in reply to "RE: Why?"
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Well, I know what a kernel is, and an OS, and I still refuse to buy Sony stuff, and not just for the rootkit "fiasco" they took on the movie industry in the 80s to fight for the legality of VCRs, and now as part of the RIAA they sue their own customers in the same breath as they sell the very technology that allows people to copy and share music. Sony is one messed up company

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RE[2]: Why?
by JustAnotherMacUser on Wed 14th Jun 2006 23:06 in reply to "Why?"
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Why did Apple close up?


Mac OS X is what sells Apple hardware.

Apple is a hardware company.

When they had PPC processors it was realitivy easy to keep their OS open because it couldn't run on the numerous x86 based Intel processors.

When IBM FAILED with their G5 processor plans and left Apple hanging, Apple was forced to find a cooler processor for their laptops and other machines.

They had to go to Intel for those processors, which if you read the Apple forums, these Intel dual cores are not really cool, just cooler than G5 processors. (I don't expect much performance increases in the future for laptops.)

So with the swtich to x86, Mac OS X is all of a sudden able to run on generic x86 hardware from any computer maker.

So for every copy of Mac OS X on a crappy Dell means one less potential switcher to Apple hardware which they need to sell to survive as a company.

So like Apple was forced to use Intel processors and now they are forced to close up their OS.

I'm sure your a nice person and give blood occassionally, but sure not going to give away the entire farm in the process.

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RE[3]: Why?
by Get a Life on Wed 14th Jun 2006 23:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Why?"
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I have never liked the phrase that Apple is a hardware company, because while they do make the bulk of their revenue from selling hardware their business revolves around creating or securing content for use with that hardware so as to encourage the sale of that hardware. Which is to say that Apple sells many products that have a certain synergy. It's sort of like thinking of a printer manufacturer as an ink company, because that is where most of the revenue from their printers comes from. It's an oversimplification.

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