Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 14th Jun 2006 17:52 UTC
Mac OS X "Apple extended the courtesy of meeting with me one day after my column on the closing of the OS X x86 kernel source code was published online. To sum up Apple's objections, they felt I had given a year-old story a fresh coat of paint and sensationalized it for an audience that wasn't affected by it. Yet no story is more timely, or more broadly relevant, than this one." Tom Yager, who raised concerns over the closed-source Intel half of the MacOS, details why he was so concerned. "The kernel will open up again, this tempest will fade away, and I'll be glad for it. What will continue to concern me so deeply is that Apple thought it would be OK, that nobody would notice or care." Note: The 2nd link was incorrect, it is fixed now. Excusez-moi.
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RE: I blogged about it
by somebody on Wed 14th Jun 2006 20:25 UTC in reply to "I blogged about it"
somebody
Member since:
2005-07-07

Well, I have to agree and disagree on this one

First, I'm a Linux die-hard, but I have to use all platforms (wheter I like them or not)

I for one can respect MS for making closed source as their bussines model. I for one even support them. If they preffer model like that, their products and their choice. (well, MS lies on different ocasions, but on this one? Never)

Can I respect Apple for going closed source? No, but them going closed source is not the reason why they can't have my respect. Why? Because they still present them selves as one of major OSS contributors which they aren't and never were. I could respect if they would say this as MS said it: "Screw OSS". The way Apple is proclaiming? Plain and simple hypocracy, nothing else, PR bull to get gulible OSS hackers on their side. But as soon as they say the truth, they will gain my respect again. Until then? Not.

Now, if you can respect a liar that lies to your face, this is your decision, but most of the people can't.

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RE[2]: I blogged about it
by Eugenia on Wed 14th Jun 2006 20:33 in reply to "RE: I blogged about it"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

I agree with you about Apple being a liar for many things during the past years: OSS, Motorola CPU speeds etc etc

But each to its own. In the current situation Apple has every right and obligation to close that source code. Someone might do a really bad deed towards me, but I will step up and be on his/her side if on an unrelated matter is on the right side. Same with Apple, they had their share of marketing lies, but on this case it's on their best financial interest to close the code.

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RE[3]: I blogged about it
by somebody on Thu 15th Jun 2006 00:06 in reply to "RE[2]: I blogged about it"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

But each to its own. In the current situation Apple has every right and obligation to close that source code. Someone might do a really bad deed towards me, but I will step up and be on his/her side if on an unrelated matter is on the right side. Same with Apple, they had their share of marketing lies, but on this case it's on their best financial interest to close the code.

Yes, just as I said. Let them close the source and if they won't pretend they are OSS company anymore I will respect them. Hell, it is their right to do that. But, at least they could be honest about their direction.

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RE[3]: I blogged about it
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 14th Jun 2006 21:04 in reply to "RE: I blogged about it"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The way Apple is proclaiming? Plain and simple hypocracy, nothing else, PR bull to get gulible OSS hackers on their side.

Agreed. I am certainly not happy with this action by Apple, EVEN though the license allows it. It is not the closing ITSELF I have problems with-- it's the talk and blah-blah around it by Apple that simply doesn't rhyme with this.

Apple advertises with the open-source-ness of the OSX, and that is simply a big lie at this moment, for the past 6 months. I hope the US has some sort of an authority that checks for false advertising like us Dutch do, but I'm afraid even if the US has, it will be too nancy to actually do something about it-- seeing how big Apple is.

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