Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Jun 2006 17:28 UTC, submitted by Sony M.
Apple "Could it ever happen? Is there even a possibility that we will see OS X on the PC? To be honest, I believe there is. But unlike others who believe that it will happen on a large scale, what I foresee instead is OS X on a very select number of Apple approved PCs. And as great as this could potentially be, here comes the rub: if we do in fact see OS X on the PC platform, Steve Jobs would only allow it just for the press - nothing more."
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I Hope Not
by mike hess on Sat 24th Jun 2006 20:17 UTC
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Member since:
2005-08-22

Trading Wintel for Macintosh is not a trade at all.

Both systems fail to respect the rights of their users. Arguably, Apple would be worse than Microsoft because they make you use their hardware configuaration. At least Windows runs on a variety of hardware (if not a variety of CPU arch).

Its pointless to get so excited about Apple's recent rise to stardom. Free Software does everything MacOS or Windows does, and grants users the freedom to control all aspects of their computer.

RE: I Hope Not
by snowbender on Sat 24th Jun 2006 21:01 in reply to "I Hope Not"
snowbender Member since:
2006-05-04

Both systems fail to respect the rights of their users. Arguably, Apple would be worse than Microsoft because they make you use their hardware configuaration. At least Windows runs on a variety of hardware (if not a variety of CPU arch).

Hmmm... does a user have the right to demand that a piece of software from a company runs on every piece of hardware that he wishes to use? I don't think so. One can say that it sucks that Apple doesn't release OSX for non-Apple systems, but that has nothing to do with Apple not respecting the rights of their users.

Its pointless to get so excited about Apple's recent rise to stardom. Free Software does everything MacOS or Windows does, and grants users the freedom to control all aspects of their computer.

Do you actually believe the latter yourself? Free software does not yet do everything that MacOS or Windows do and it only gives you the freedom to control those aspects of your computer that either come with open specs or either have been reverse engineered. Slight difference.

Do not be mistaken, I have a lot of respect for Free Software and since I run Linux on powerpc, all the software I'm running is actually free software.

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RE[2]: I Hope Not
by mike hess on Sat 24th Jun 2006 21:19 in reply to "RE: I Hope Not"
mike hess Member since:
2005-08-22

Users have a right to demand whatever they want. That's the role of "users" in the User/Vendor model. Whether the vendor considers the demand realistic and meets the demand is their right as a vendor.

Maybe its not realistic to expect your software to run on all hardware, but what Apple does is pretty extreme in the wrong direction.

As far as the functions of the OS are concerned, i honestly do believe a Gnu/Linux distribution like Ubuntu is feature-compatible with Windows or OSX. The main areas it is lacking are by choice to avoid legal issues.

We can argue about how much freedom users should expect, but the fact is not having the right to modify the source code means users are always at the mercy of the vendor to fix any defects in their code, let alone provide those fixes for free. And its pretty much accepted that any substantial project will have defects.

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RE: I Hope Not
by chlordane on Sun 25th Jun 2006 04:15 in reply to "I Hope Not"
chlordane Member since:
2006-05-11

"Both systems fail to respect the rights of their users. Arguably, Apple would be worse than Microsoft because they make you use their hardware configuaration. At least Windows runs on a variety of hardware (if not a variety of CPU arch)."

I dont think Apple would be worse, if you buy from Dell, you will get Windows, Apple gives you THEIR hardware with THEIR software, why cant Dell, produce Dell OS or something like that?

Dont get me wrong, I wish I could run Mac OS X on my AMD based system, but I cant, SO I have to buy what Apple sells in order to get it...

The beautiful thing about choice is, you can buy what you want....

You want Windows, but you dont know how to build a computer yourself, buy a Dell...

You want Mac OS X, you are going to have to buy a Apple Computer, currently of course, who knows what will happen in the future....

but my point is unless you build it yourself, you will use one or the other....unless you learn Linux, you will use one or the other: Windows -or- Mac OS X.....

educating yourself gives you the Linux option...
without education you have no choice.....

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