Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Jun 2006 11:48 UTC, submitted by RJay
Microsoft WinFS seems to have been cancelled-- sort of. "These changes do mean that we are not pursuing a separate delivery of WinFS, including the previously planned Beta 2 release. With most of our effort now working towards productizing mature aspects of the WinFS project into SQL and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a separate WinFS offering."
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RE[4]: It's basically dead.
by dylansmrjones on Sun 25th Jun 2006 12:53 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: It's basically dead."
dylansmrjones
Member since:
2005-10-02

It is a sort of database.

But it's also a sort of high-level FS running on top of a low-level FS.

It's a database-like FS-extension.

Am I getting closer to something you can recognize?

The article does not directly use the word "filesystem" but I've always considered WinFS to be a high-level object-oriented, relational file system. So the 4th paragraph sort of points it out for me. Phrases like "richer store", "storage innovations" are what I consider part of a high-level FS.

It fits into what I've learned about FS. The classical Mac FS is a rich storage FS.

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RE[5]: It's basically dead.
by sappyvcv on Sun 25th Jun 2006 13:09 in reply to "RE[4]: It's basically dead."
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

How come the developers have said before that it's not a file system then?

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RE[6]: It's basically dead.
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 25th Jun 2006 13:12 in reply to "RE[5]: It's basically dead."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

To me, this is really simple: WinFS is a database running on top of NTFS, organizing the files on that NTFS volume in such a way that they can be manipulated as if they are in a database.

A filesystem atop a filesystem don't make no sense to me.

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RE[6]: It's basically dead.
by dylansmrjones on Sun 25th Jun 2006 13:18 in reply to "RE[5]: It's basically dead."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I'm not aware of such statements.
I am however aware that it's not a classical FS in any low-level sense, but I'm not aware they have claimed that it's not a FS in a high-level sense.

The article clearly shows that WinFS _was_ intended as a FS.

How come the developers are saying it is dead as a high-level file system if it wasn't intended to be such a thing?

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RE[6]: It's basically dead.
by grrr on Sun 25th Jun 2006 18:41 in reply to "RE[4]: It's basically dead."
grrr Member since:
2005-09-03

That is probably why it is dead. Nobody knows what it is for or what problem it solves even the developers.

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RE[7]: It's basically dead.
by dylansmrjones on Sun 25th Jun 2006 19:01 in reply to "RE[6]: It's basically dead."
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

I know what it is for, and so does the developers.

I also know the problems it solves (at least some of them) and some of the problems it creates (at least some of them).

The fact that someone got confused doesn't mean devs are confused, just that that someone didn't know better.

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