Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Jul 2005 19:16 UTC
IBM IBM has today presented various new versions of their G5 processor at the Power Everywhere Forum in Japan. Firstly, it introduced the much-anticipated PowerPC 970MP, the dual-core version of the G5. In addition, they also announced 3 low-power G5s, ranging from 1.2Ghz at 13W to 1.6Ghz at 16W. These processors will most likely find their way into Apple's Macs.
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RE: Intel myths...
by on Fri 8th Jul 2005 14:07 UTC in reply to "Intel myths..."

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From your link: "A new, low-power 970FX consumes between 13W and 16W at frequencies of 1.2GHz, 1.4GHz and 1.6GHz. That's more than the 10W that the Freescale MPC7448 found in today's 1.5Ghz PowerBooks consumes, but around half the maximum power consumption of Intel's Pentium M, which powers today's Centrino laptops."

The chips don't consume from 13W to 16W! You have the 1.2Ghz which consumes 13W typically (not under load) and the 1.6Ghz which consumes 16W typically (not under load). You obviously can't compare those numbers with the MAXIMUM Pentium M power consumption because typical load and maximum load generate very different power consumption. Besides, these chips aren't released yet!

Please tell me why the 1.6Ghz G5 (which won't be here at least until the end of the year) is faster than the faster Dothan Pentium M? And what about Yonah? I'm sorry, you can argue that G5 is a better chip for workstations/desktops BUT I find it hard someone finds me a better mobile chip than Dothan (currently) and Yonah (early next year). Please, please, show me I'm wrong!!

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RE[2]: Intel myths...
by on Fri 8th Jul 2005 14:40 in reply to "RE: Intel myths..."
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Turion is a better mobile chip (for me at least) because it can run linux x64 (and Windows for x64) while Dothan simply can't.

You see there is no absulute truth, only relative...

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RE[3]: Intel myths...
by on Fri 8th Jul 2005 15:17 in reply to "RE[2]: Intel myths..."
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Yeah, there's the Turion but still in the PowerPC camp there's nothing competitive in the mobile market.

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RE[2]: Intel myths...
by JLF65 on Fri 8th Jul 2005 19:38 in reply to "RE: Intel myths..."
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2005-07-06

First, "typical" power dissipation is not the same as idle - it's TYPICAL - say an average given typical usage of the system. I don't know about you, but my systems are rarely idle. So it's not idle, but it's not max - it's in-between.

Second, a 1.6 GHz G5 will beat a 2 GHz Pentium M at most tasks. Pentium M's have received a lot of attention lately because enthusiast sites have shown that overclocking a Pentium M to 2.5 GHz allows it to play a few game demo benchmarks at close to Athlon 64 speeds. However, if you check all the other benchmarks, Pentium Ms score very poorly, even overclocked by 50%.

A G5 is a monster chip on par with the Opteron and Xeon EM64T chips. It's not faster than the AMD64, but it's in the same ballpark. The fact of the matter is, the Pentium M is not in that ballpark at all.

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