Linked by Trans Onoma on Mon 26th Jun 2006 14:34 UTC
Apple Recent news tells us Apple is still struggling to gain market share in the personal computer market. That's too bad. While I have some beefy grieves with Apple (being that I am an IT "expert" and all that), their systems nonetheless beat the proverbial tars out of the typical Windows PC crowd.
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Apple just another Microsoft
by Don T. Bothers on Mon 26th Jun 2006 18:06 UTC
Don T. Bothers
Member since:
2006-03-15

While Apple might have a better Microsoft OS than Microsoft, when it comes down to it, MacOS really is just a Microsoft OS. It might perform slightly better, it might be a little more secure, the eye candy might be better, it might be a little easier to use, but it is just another proprietary operating system that is trying to lock in their users and take away their rights. Why should people go through the trouble to switch when Microsoft is good enough at doing what Apple wants to do? OTOH, Linux is a completely different paradigm, one of freedom and empowerment, one that will entice governments, public agencies, private enterprises, concerned individuals to go through the trouble and switch. Linux will give people something that Microsoft will never be able to give and maintain their power.

RE: Apple just another Microsoft
by mungas on Mon 26th Jun 2006 18:28 in reply to "Apple just another Microsoft"
mungas Member since:
2006-05-08

If most people don't care about which OS they use, then how can we expect them to suddenly use political views to guide them? And worse yet, socialism...

If Linux was as user friendly and likable as OSX, then MS would be in trouble. But sadly, Linux is not.

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Don T. Bothers Member since:
2006-03-15

"If most people don't care about which OS they use, then how can we expect them to suddenly use political views to guide them? And worse yet, socialism..."

Because China cares, India cares, Europe cares, Iran cares, Korea cares, Mexico cares, Canada cares... IBM cares, Sun cares, Kaiser cares... I could easily have filled this whole page with people who care about the freedom Linux gives them, but I will spare you the trouble. And as Microsoft and Apple start pushing their proprietary-technology encumbered solutions, and as people start wondering why they have to buy five different versions of the same movie/song/software, they will start caring too. Already, a lot of people do care. I certainly do.
Linux gives people freedom. Microsoft and Apple give people an easy to use trap for people to get themselves stuck in.

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jamesrdorn Member since:
2005-07-27

Linux will give people something that Microsoft will never be able to give and maintain their power.

A headache installing or configuring software? What about understanding what xin is for, or understanding version numbers like 0.1.5.5.1-2... or maybe it's the 'empowerment'to know exacly what man page to look at if they wanted to release/renew their ip, or simply figure out what version of linux kernel they are using?

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ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

Oh please...

A headache installing or configuring software?
Really, this argument is really getting silly. While there are certainly things that can improve when it comes to installing software on a linux system, in general it's incredibly easy and in the case of distributions like ubuntu nearly idiot proofed.

Selecting the apps you want to install from a nice list, that is broken into relevant categories and offers descriptions for every piece of software and then hitting install certainly isn't hard, is it?

What about understanding what xin is for, or understanding version numbers like 0.1.5.5.1-2
What's xin supposed to be and why should any normal user care about version numbers?

or maybe it's the 'empowerment'to know exacly what man page to look at if they wanted to release/renew their ip
or maybe they should simply use the graphical tools provided for this kind of thing.

or simply figure out what version of linux kernel they are using?
Wow, now that's a really valid example. After all, people who need to find out esoteric stuff like this sure can't be bothered to type uname --help into a terminal.


Seriously, I'm getting so tired with these senseless linux bashing posts like yours. It's not that there aren't enough things that need improvement in any linux distribution, it's that you aren't even aware of them and instead choose to beat dead horses to support your bias.

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CaptainFlint Member since:
2006-01-24

A headache installing or configuring software? What about understanding what xin is for, or understanding version numbers like 0.1.5.5.1-2... or maybe it's the 'empowerment'to know exacly what man page to look at if they wanted to release/renew their ip, or simply figure out what version of linux kernel they are using?

Linux will give freedom from DRM, vendor lock in, proprietory protocols and document formats, strong arm sales tactics and control by a single company.

You paint too dismal a picture. Linux has been getting easier to use by the day and it fairly easy to maintain and update. Also what is wrong with man pages? I would think proper documentation would be appreciated.

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