Linked by Eugenia Loli on Fri 30th Jun 2006 19:19 UTC, submitted by Yadav Ji
Linux "Over the years, I've had a number of people asking me what I believe the problem was with further migration over to Linux by the public at large. To be frank, I don't believe that there is a simple answer to this. To me, there are a number of factors that play a role in keeping Linux out of the mainstream limelight" writes Matt Hartley in his opinion piece.
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Who cares?
by Barnabyh on Fri 30th Jun 2006 19:50 UTC
Barnabyh
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2006-02-06

>Should Windows users looking to simply try something different consider looking into a beginner-friendly distribution of Linux? Or should they instead, stick with they know and leave the Linux world to the Linux geek. It's your call. Actually, it's a decision that each Linux user has to make everyday someone questions them about the operating system.<

It's not so much what they Should do or not, it's about what they wantand whether they are willing to learn something new. They (and I) had to learn how to use and install Windows one day ages ago, and let me tell you it wasn't easy at first. They can also learn how to make Linux work for them just as I did, with a little bit of time, dedication, and interest.
There is no reason today why somebody genuinely interested could not accomplish this, and in some aspects I find the current state of Linux distributions easier than Windows.
If they can't be bothered, scr*w 'em, that's fine as well, not everybody has to run Linux anyways, we're not in competition. And let's not forget the BSD's which I'm now, feeling more and more comfortable with *nix, planning to give a shot for their very own reasons.

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RE: Who cares?
by Ronald Vos on Fri 30th Jun 2006 23:17 in reply to "Who cares?"
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2005-07-06

It's not so much what they Should do or not, it's about what they wantand whether they are willing to learn something new. They (and I) had to learn how to use and install Windows one day ages ago, and let me tell you it wasn't easy at first. They can also learn how to make Linux work for them just as I did, with a little bit of time, dedication, and interest.

It's not necessarily about how hard it is to learn Linux, as compared to Linux, but more about comparative advantage. The problem for me is that I'm expert with Windows, and a moderate noob with Linux. Now I could say the latest SuSe has a lessened learning curve than Winxp because it's so polished, and comes with all sorts of stuff to make my life easier.

But: it's another learning curve, with a vaguely defined advantage (no Microsoft) for going through it. I'm not paying for either Winxp or SuSe, but with one I'm certain I can do anything I want with it, and with the other it's a big questionmark (I have to relearn how to use apps, and relearn which apps to use for what).

But am I going to be better off in the end?
SLED is great with auto-detection (detects my wireless!), but since my wireless usb dongle's instructions are geared for Windows, and I'm unfamiliar with the configuration under SuSe, I haven't been able to correctly set things up in SLED yet.

So no internet, and a much harder life under Linux than Windows.

It's simple deal-breakers like that (hardware is often a single point of failure) that make Linux less attractive a deal.

Thing is..there needs to be a 'genuine advantage' in using Linux..enough to off-set the downsides. You can only lessen the downsides, but as long as Linux isn't the biggest player, you can't eliminate the downside of lesser hardware compatibility, and as long as Linux doesn't get pre-installed, you're not getting rid of the learning curve.

Linux needs really cool software, if the goal is to get people to switch.

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RE: Who cares?
by Jon Dough on Sat 1st Jul 2006 13:27 in reply to "Who cares?"
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2005-11-30

They had to learn how to use and install Windows one day ages ago

Wrong answer. In all likelyhood, Windows came pre-loaded and pre-setup on their computer.

In order to compete effectively, GNU/Linux must become widely available pre-loaded and pre-setup on computers.

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RE[2]: Who cares?
by Barnabyh on Sat 1st Jul 2006 13:59 in reply to "RE: Who cares?"
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2006-02-06

No really, you haven't addressed the 'learn how to use part'. People were not born with the knowledge how to use Windows wired into their brains, they had to learn this as well. Unless you're of the generation that grew up with a Windows computer from 3 yrs old.
Windows coming pre-loaded without a need ever to reinstall is only an argument possibly since XP times, and even then a reinstall would suit a lot of people better than trying to work with a system that's become unstable and spyware-ridden with most average users lacking the knowledge or inclination to fully get rid off.
If you remember in Win3.1/95/98 times we used to have to reinstall every few months, and despite buying it preloaded people would still have to learn the install routine if they wanted to keep using that expensive piece of hardware in the corner. And just thinking of all these Y2k patches back then without Windows update - what a nightmare.

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