Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Aug 2005 20:49 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews The news that Apple is going to switch to Intel processors shook up the computing world. Many users and developers were eager to publish their opinions on the switch. However, one group of people were totally neglected during all this: resellers. Today, we feature an interview with Wim Schermer, first Dutchman to own a Mac (in 1984), and co-founder of one of the biggest Apple retail stores in The Netherlands, MacSupport. We discuss the switch to Intel, and much more.
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RE: omg
by dru_satori on Fri 5th Aug 2005 16:25 UTC in reply to "omg"
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Only in the most general sense of the word. Technically speaking, a Mac is a 'Personal Computer'. However, it's been many years since the Mac described itself that way. Some people would, and could make a case for modern Mac's being 'workstation' class computers. I'm not one of them, I always felt that to be a misnomer anyways. For what's it's worth, IBM service marked the IBM PC, and the clones of the original 4.77 mhz 8086 based IBM PC used the term 'PC' (not the full Personal Computer as you are inferring it to be) as a general moniker for 'x86 computer capable of running software designed for the IBM PC and compatable devices'. This general term does not therefore include the Mac, as it does not meet that criteria.

As an aside, it is called Virtual 'PC', not Virtual x86, though that is in fact what it is.

In short, while you may be technically correct on one level, you are incorrect on the more approriate social and conversational level.

A Mac may be a Personal Computer, it is not a PC, which in a nod to the evolution of spoken language may have started life as an acronym for Personal Computer, it has become through common usage a moniker that means x86 compatable computer.

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RE[2]: omg
by on Fri 5th Aug 2005 16:46 in reply to "RE: omg"
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"A Mac may be a Personal Computer, it is not a PC"

The x86 computer for Apple will be a Mac AND a PC. I think thats the point people are making. Essentially, Apple will have all the benefits of a Windows PC, all the benefits of a Macintosh will also being fully compatible with x86 Linux and BSD all without paying more than any other comperably equipped PC from any OEM or DIY config.

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RE[3]: omg
by dru_satori on Fri 5th Aug 2005 17:10 in reply to "RE[2]: omg"
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The x86 computer for Apple will be a Mac AND a PC. I think thats the point people are making. Essentially, Apple will have all the benefits of a Windows PC, all the benefits of a Macintosh will also being fully compatible with x86 Linux and BSD all without paying more than any other comperably equipped PC from any OEM or DIY config

I don't think so. While it will share many of the same guts, most Macs today already do, the only real differences in what's inside is a CPU and chipset, a Mac wll continue to differentiate itself by design and implementation. We already know that will happen with the first generation MacTel's. We've already been told that Apple intends on using Intel's new BIOS, which to this point none of the x86 vendors are doing. We also can be fairly certain that Apple will continue it's emphasis on leveraging the hardware, and that means that they will continue to integrate the OS to the hardware to tweak performance and functions. This is probably the biggest reason _against_ opening the OS to any x86 box. Once you get into generic systems, and the general x86 'Reference Designs' that make up the vast bulk of x86 hardware today, you get into Least Common Denominator territory.

LCD is the great weakness of all the x86 proponents. It means making sacrifices for non-optimized hardware, or worse, implementing a hundred little kludges around known LCD issues, sacrificing performance and stability. I don't expect Apple to go down this path. While Windows and Linux will probably run on the hardware, don't expect Apple to go out of their way to make that easier. Their only interest will lie in tweaking the Hardware and OS X to work together as smoothly as possible.

I do have a Transition Kit, and while I can't say anything more than that about it, I can say with confidence that the next 5 years are going to be a hell of alot of fun for the entire IT industry as Intel, Microsoft, Apple and AMD lay waste to the stagnate rate of innovation in hardware and operating systems of the past 10 years.

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