Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Aug 2005 20:49 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews The news that Apple is going to switch to Intel processors shook up the computing world. Many users and developers were eager to publish their opinions on the switch. However, one group of people were totally neglected during all this: resellers. Today, we feature an interview with Wim Schermer, first Dutchman to own a Mac (in 1984), and co-founder of one of the biggest Apple retail stores in The Netherlands, MacSupport. We discuss the switch to Intel, and much more.
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RE[16]: Price
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 5th Aug 2005 18:52 UTC in reply to "RE[15]: Price"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

I'm referring to you getting more... and so you pay more.

Kelly, Kelly, Kelly. I told you already in various threads, and even on AIM: this is a totallly subjective matter and not as black&white as you're putting it here. *You* might find that you're getting "more" when you buy a Mac, but for someone else, say a heavy gamer, that simply doesn't go! That gamer will be a lot better off with an x86 machine, because we all know that most games are made for x86 first, and then for Mac (if at all).

You see? People like us, Mac users, we get "more" from our Mac and pay for that "more". However, not everyone sees the things you get with a Mac as "more". If Joe wants to play games, a Mac will be useless to him.

You get it now? I'm really starting to lose my patience here.

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RE[17]: Price
by kellym on Fri 5th Aug 2005 19:24 in reply to "RE[16]: Price"
kellym Member since:
2005-07-06

"That gamer will be a lot better off with an x86 machine, because we all know that most games are made for x86 first, and then for Mac (if at all)."

Thom, as I replied back to you... you are 100% correct but not for the reasons you're eluding to. Yes, an x86 machine *IS* better for games, but not because of its better price but because of its adaptability and configurability. You're able to buy the parts that are more specific to your needs. In essence, you can buy more and spend more or buy less and spend less. That doesn't mean that PCs are less expensive, it simply means that they're more configurable.

Somewhere along the line you seem to think that I'm of the mindset that a Mac is the most ideal solution for all purposes. I know thats not the case and thats not what I've been saying. Rather, I'm simply contesting the statement that a Mac is the more expensive machine. It *CAN* be if you want to only buy specific hardware and nothing more, but as I've been saying repeatedly over and over again... "A Mac is not more expensive than a comparably equipped PC." And thats true.

I find it concerning that so many have such a hard time clinging to that concept.

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RE[18]: Price
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 5th Aug 2005 21:00 in reply to "RE[17]: Price"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Thom, as I replied back to you... you are 100% correct but not for the reasons you're eluding to. Yes, an x86 machine *IS* better for games, but not because of its better price but because of its adaptability and configurability.

Doesn't that configurability counts as a "more" for the x86?

Somewhere along the line you seem to think that I'm of the mindset that a Mac is the most ideal solution for all purposes.

Where did I say that?

Rather, I'm simply contesting the statement that a Mac is the more expensive machine.

You've been saying that a Mac isn't expensive because of the "pay more, get more". All I've been trying to do is expain to you (something tells me I'll have more luck telling a floortile to flip), that not everyone regards the stuff you get with a Mac as "more". The conclusion one can draw from that, is that for some people, a Mac is the more expensive machine, and for some (like me), it isn't.

It's similair to having a discussion over what you'll do with a million Euros. My parents will say that they wanna add a new wing to their house. To which I will say, "damn, our house is big enough, a waste of money. I will buy myself an Aston Martin DB9" (202 000 Euros), to which my parents will say: "you already have a car, you'll not be able to get any faster from A to B with an Aston!"

It's all a matter of needs and wants, Kelly. As long as you don't understand that, discussing this issue with you is a complete was of time (now, where's that floortile?).

I find it concerning that so many have such a hard time clinging to that concept.

Maybe that's because you're not right? I'm sorry, but I have more faith in Wim Schermer, who has been leading a succesfull company that's growing with 50% a year, then in you.

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