Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Jul 2006 19:03 UTC, submitted by Patrick
"Ubuntu caused a lot of friction with and for Debian. In discussions with its founder, Mark Shuttleworth, and other Ubuntu developers during (and before) Debconf6, I was able to spell out the main criticisms from the Debian perspectives of the way Canonical/Ubuntu is handling things (without a claim to completeness). These criticisms mainly stem from discussions with fellow developers over the past 18 months, and I largely support all of them. I am publicising them here to help make the status quo more transparent."
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A mutual effort in true partnership would benefit both projects and ultimately the user most. However right now I believe a little consolidation would be a good thing and not more derivatives.
... which is precisely why I am doing all this. I am trying to consolidate (as are a bunch of others), but if it won't work, it's pointless to lose time and energy.
but there are some very visible contributions from the Ubuntu project in testing snapshot right now.
Absolutely.
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2006-02-06
>However, the only way this is going to work from the Debian perspective is as a mutual effort. If Canonical/Ubuntu do not realise this, maybe another derivative has to step in to fill the void?<
A mutual effort in true partnership would benefit both projects and ultimately the user most. However right now I believe a little consolidation would be a good thing and not more derivatives.
From an efficiency point of view wouldn't it be better to have people concentrate on fewer 'distros' and even higher quality instead of duplicating a lot of work? (I know, this was an argument when they started forking in the first place). Let's hope Ubuntu and Debian can work it out.
Btw- will probably go back to Debian when etch is stable (due to philosophy) as it comes along very nicely, but there are some very visible contributions from the Ubuntu project in testing snapshot right now.