"Ubuntu caused a lot of friction with and for Debian. In discussions with its founder, Mark Shuttleworth, and other Ubuntu developers during (and before) Debconf6, I was able to spell out the main criticisms from the Debian perspectives of the way Canonical/Ubuntu is handling things (without a claim to completeness). These criticisms mainly stem from discussions with fellow developers over the past 18 months, and I largely support all of them. I am publicising them here to help make the status quo more transparent."
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Member since:2005-07-08
That is really unbelievable. And why? The installer is a lot easier than it used to be, testing is more bleeding edge than many other distros (and it soon overtakes Ubuntu as well)...
So I wonder what is wrong with Debian as a desktop distro.
There's nothing wrong with added stability and security. But most people would trade a bit of stability/security for bleeding edge packages.
Anyway, you seem to be biaised torward Debian ;-)
Member since:2005-07-06
There's nothing wrong with added stability and security. But most people would trade a bit of stability/security for bleeding edge packages.
Well, one of my machines has been running (through several hardware changea and replacements) Debian sid for about 4 years. I never ever felt I don't have the newest packages. I ran into package problems sometimes, but it wasn't something I couldn't resolve this way or the other. You could argue that the average user won't do that, still, you said you wanted bleeding edge, and there's no distro that gives you more bleeding edge _constantly_ than debian sid (besides gentoo ~x86/amd64 of course) and there certainly isn't any other distro that gives you that level of bleeding edge with less hassle (for me it's not, but I'm no fool to think it wouldn't be for average users).
Anyway, you seem to be biaised torward Debian ;-)
I note the smiley, still, that's hardly an argument, it's something one says when there's nothing else he could come up with.
Member since:2006-01-18
There's nothing wrong with added stability and security. But most people would trade a bit of stability/security for bleeding edge packages.
http://backports.org
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2005-07-06
"The distribution mostly focus on stability and security.'
And what is wrong with that?
"Thus said, Debian is irrelevant for most people that want a modern linux desktop."
That is really unbelievable. And why? The installer is a lot easier than it used to be, testing is more bleeding edge than many other distros (and it soon overtakes Ubuntu as well)...
So I wonder what is wrong with Debian as a desktop distro.