Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Jul 2006 10:41 UTC
Features, Office Microsoft is giving in to the unrelenting pressure to be more open, particularly with regard to its Office Open XML file format and interoperability with the Open Document Format alternative. The company will announce July 6 that it has set up an open-source project to create a series of tools that allow translation between the OpenXML format and the ODF format, and which will be developed with partners. The Open XML Translator project, as it is known, will be posted on SourceForge, the open-source software development Web site.
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RE[8]: OH COME ON!!!
by Shkaba on Sat 8th Jul 2006 01:32 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: OH COME ON!!!"
Shkaba
Member since:
2006-06-22

I don't understand you, or better the point you are trying to make if there is a point to be made. Are you an MS employee, in marketing dept. maybe? Because it would appear that you are familiar with customer's demands and their "change". When a state in US (Mass.) presents a demand to support an open document format does it not qualify as customers demand, or when a govt. of a country(Belg) asks the same...? These demands are not new. If I know about them for almost a year I suspect MS knew way earlier and yet they thought they can strong arm them. They couldn't!! Hence the title "...Bows to the pressure...". All that wasted time and nothing to show for it. The reason for most people looking at this change of heart with suspicion is due to MS track record as a very iresponsible leader of IT (MS spyware, security flawed OS, bugg ridden browser, non-compliance with court rulings, etc)
The one, and only, thing where MS truly shines at is using catch frases and adopting somebody elses inovations while modifying them in such a way that nobody else can use them.

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RE[9]: OH COME ON!!!
by sappyvcv on Sat 8th Jul 2006 01:37 in reply to "RE[8]: OH COME ON!!!"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, I am an MS employee.

There was increased customer demand, and I know this, because it was in the freaking news.

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RE[10]: OH COME ON!!!
by Shkaba on Sat 8th Jul 2006 02:35 in reply to "RE[9]: OH COME ON!!!"
Shkaba Member since:
2006-06-22

I am confused .... I just read the article again and for your conveniance here is a part of it :

"In other words, the motivation for the creation of these translation tools was "not about an overwhelming response from enterprises and other customers seeking ODF support," but rather to respond to governmental concerns about being able to communicate with constituents that might choose to make use of the ODF, Matusow said."

Am I reading this wrongly, or are you talking about some other news? I would think MS employees would be on the same page on this one. As for people that are naive enough to think that there is a true change in MS position on openning up, here is another part that sheds some light:

"The move comes hot on the heels of news that the OpenDocument Foundation planned to present Massachusetts with an Office plug-in that would allow Office users to open, render and save to ODF files, while also allowing translation of documents between Microsoft's binary (.doc, .xls, .ppt) or XML formats and ODF."

Increased customer demand, users crying for a tool like WGA, value added to terminal services in windows 2003 server (so now you have to purchase license) ... all these are standard MS catch phrases, that people don't buy any more (or at least are buying less).

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RE[10]: OH COME ON!!!
by hal2k1 on Sat 8th Jul 2006 08:32 in reply to "RE[9]: OH COME ON!!!"
hal2k1 Member since:
2005-11-11

//Yes, I am an MS employee. //

That has been apparent to me for some time without you saying it.

There can be no other explanation for some of the apparent views you hold concerning some things that benefit no-one but Microsoft.

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