Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sun 9th Jul 2006 01:32 UTC, submitted by Tom H.
Mozilla & Gecko clones "Recently, I have been pondering why is Firefox so darn popular? This is a question that I honestly ask myself sometimes, often while browsing the web from within the browser itself. The real trick is that there are so many different ways to answer this." More of the editorial here. Additionally, the first set of release candidates for Firefox 2.0 Beta 1 have been posted to the Mozilla FTP of nightly releases.
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RE: re
by manjabes on Sun 9th Jul 2006 08:38 UTC in reply to "re"
manjabes
Member since:
2005-08-27

Opera looks to me way to busy and cluttered,

Oh come on already!! Opera makes it EXTREMELY simple to hide ANYTHING but the individual items from the menu bar so the "interface clutter" is no argument at all. IF you really tried to use it then you would have noticed it and accustomed the UI to what you have become used to. But this looks just like another "i fired up Opera, it looked ugly, f--k it, FF is better, Opera sucks etc." rant.

Now, if you'd really want to give Opera a chance then I suggest you right click on, say the address bar, select "Customize" from the menu and have a look at what was thrown at you. However, if you'd rather not bother with it then don't replicate your stupid "opera==bloat==ugly==whatever" type of BS.

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RE[2]: re
by Get a Life on Sun 9th Jul 2006 13:21 in reply to "RE: re"
Get a Life Member since:
2006-01-01

If you want to see an example of a rant, read your post. If you want to see someone expressing an opinion see the post you're replying to.

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RE[2]: re
by maxmg on Sun 9th Jul 2006 18:30 in reply to "RE: re"
maxmg Member since:
2006-02-26

Oh come on already!! Opera makes it EXTREMELY simple to hide ANYTHING but the individual items from the menu bar so the "interface clutter" is no argument at all. IF you really tried to use it then you would have noticed it and accustomed the UI to what you have become used to. But this looks just like another "i fired up Opera, it looked ugly, f--k it, FF is better, Opera sucks etc." rant.

The opinion that opera is too cluttered, as standard, is a perfectly valid observation, and one that might well account for why it has not been taken up as widely as it perhaps merits. Of course its appearance can be changed, but that isn't the point. Its default appearance, which is presumably how the developers want us to view it, was always terrible if you were using a small screen. First impressions count, and attitudes like yours are hardly going to help people overcome those first impressions.

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RE[3]: re
by eMagius on Sun 9th Jul 2006 18:52 in reply to "RE[2]: re"
eMagius Member since:
2005-07-06

Clutter?

Default Opera layout:
http://www.opera.com/img/products/desktop/screenshots/myopera.jpg

It's more or less the same as the year+ old Opera 8, actually:
http://www.opera.com/docs/screenshots/800/01/

That's no more cluttered than Firefox's default or even IE's default (except for tabs/pages support, obviously).

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