Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jul 2006 17:14 UTC
Windows Speaking at a forum in South Africa regarding a plan for Microsoft to make major technology investments in the country, Bill Gates said there was an "80 percent chance" Windows Vista would by ready for its planned January launch. He also had no qualms about delaying the OS further if necessary.
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RE[4]: apart from ...
by Rayz on Tue 11th Jul 2006 18:28 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: apart from ..."
Rayz
Member since:
2006-06-24

If I remember rightly, it's a beta isn't it? They probably have quite a bit debug stuff to strip out for one thing. And I a lot of optimisation too. And memory is pretty cheap.

If you have Office, make sure it's not preloading it on startup. MS seems to think that's a good idea.

But yep; if it ain't ready, don't ship it ....

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RE[5]: apart from ...
by s_groening on Tue 11th Jul 2006 21:20 in reply to "RE[4]: apart from ..."
s_groening Member since:
2005-12-13

That is exactly a poin tI don't like hearing, 'memory is cheap'... As if this thing is ever gonna stop?

-We all will have to buy more and more memory because nowadays these companies don't care about hardware demands, only their own prestige...

...And it seems as if Apple and Microsoft both want us to be using the newest, flashiest hardware around...

...The era of optimization down to the mitty gritty has long gone... Today the argument is that 'everything is cheap' where as in the '90s 'everything was expensive'....

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RE[6]: apart from ...
by rayiner on Tue 11th Jul 2006 21:58 in reply to "RE[5]: apart from ..."
rayiner Member since:
2005-07-06

[QUOTE]
...The era of optimization down to the mitty gritty has long gone... Today the argument is that 'everything is cheap' where as in the '90s 'everything was expensive'....[/QUOTE]

Everything is cheap today --- except the programmer time required to optimize a program.

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RE[5]: apart from ...
by fyysik on Tue 11th Jul 2006 23:57 in reply to "RE[4]: apart from ..."
fyysik Member since:
2006-02-19

"Memory is cheap".
Kind of. But 800 MB is almost of 1/4 of total memory available under x86-32 at ALL!
You can buy 256 GB "for cheap", yeah. But you cannot use it until machines and OS-es are running in 64-bit mode:)

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RE[5]: apart from ...
by PlatformAgnostic on Wed 12th Jul 2006 06:32 in reply to "RE[4]: apart from ..."
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2006-01-02

MSFT doesn't ship debug code to customers for Beta products. It doesn't make any sense for them to do so because people would get bitten by asserts and other random debug stuff. It's not useful for MSFT to ship out anything for a Beta that they wouldn't ship out for the actual product, aside from last-minute feature changes.

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by sappyvcv on Wed 12th Jul 2006 13:56 in reply to "RE[5]: apart from ..."
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

I think what you're thinking of is the Release Canidates, not betas.

ASSERTS can be disabled when you build something with debug code.

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