Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Jul 2006 20:16 UTC, submitted by jake tate
Linspire Kevin Carmony of Linspire/Freespire has announced that the first beta of Freespire has been released earlier than anticipated. Get it from the download page. According to Carmony, this release includes out-of-the-box support for proprietary formats such as .mp3 and WMV, plug-and-play support for Ati and nVIDIA cards without user intervention, Click-N-Run, and much more.
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RE[2]: Isn't it violation of GPL?
by CaptainTux on Mon 17th Jul 2006 04:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Isn't it violation of GPL?"
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"If these proprietary software vendors would agree to similar terms, then everyone's life would be much easier."

Between the FSF and the OSI, we have our share of licenses and conflicts. ;-)

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butters Member since:

You're certainly right... but you're taking that statment out of context in hopes of starting one of my least favorite arguments, the one I dread so much, especially the amatuerish brand replayed ad nauseum on OSNews.

Seriously, if you're gunna do the whole GPL/BSD/CDDL debate thing, you gotta do it right, and I've never seen it done right on OSNews, so let's not do it, OK?

Clearly, I was just pointing out that click-through/prompt-through licensing is completely unecessary. These proprietary vendors can assert whatever license agreement they wish without user intervention, so long as it's included prominently in the installation (i.e. the LICENSE or README files).

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Moulinneuf Member since:

"You're certainly right... "

No , he aint.

"but you're taking ... ad nauseum on OSNews. "

Reading your answers , my toughts are that you clearly dont know , dont understand and are not qualified in any minimal way to discuss the subject.

"and I've never seen it done right on OSNews"

Read my post.

"Clearly, I was just ... completely unecessary."

You where not really clear or right , but that was about close enough.

"These proprietary ... installation (i.e. the LICENSE or README files). "

No , thats the problem today , most people think ( rather they dont at all , but its mostly due to there failed education about laws and rights ) that corporation have every right to screw you out of any rights they feel like at any time in any shape or form.

Most license are illegal and most readme are not law bidding , the problem is you have to go to court to get them revoked and thats a cost most people are not whilling to pay on there time and dime.

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Moulinneuf Member since:

"Between the FSF and the OSI "

Thats two diferent certification :

FSF certify Free softwares.
OSI certify Open Source software.

"we have our share of licenses"

Neither group are responsible for that , its the developper , lawyers and special interest group that are to blame , I dont think it would look good politically to tell a new license maker that there license is rejected on the basis that one almost exactly the same exist , it would be for the courts of each country to decide anyway.

"and conflicts"

There is almost no conflicts between the two group , there is a lot of individuals in those groups who disagree with each others , but its human nature to argue things.

The real problem come from the definitions ( Of what is what ) who are really lax in there terms and allow , Lying , traitor and thieve license to be included.

Open Source software should always be Open Source and Free software should always be Free software with no possibility to change them for any reason to something else. The commercial lies have been proven wrong by 15 years of commercial use.

Open Source dont survive very well on its own , exactly because of those who distort it , If you disagree :

Windows ( Open Source King , who make proprietary code with it )

Apple ( Open Source Prince , who make proprietary code with and sometime let the Open Source community have something back )

GNU/Linux , Free Software.

Explain why those 3 are the Main OS today for the majority and why hardware maker make most hardware with them in mind.

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