Toby Richards wrote an opinion article for NewsForge, claiming that for him, Linux won't get mainstream until Evolution - or another capable Outlook-like client - gets optimized and offers 100% compatibility with Exchange. In the comments section of Newsforge readers offered more reasons as to why Linux is not mainstream, offering a view on their needs. My take: While for my personal, home usage of Linux my needs are different, I agree with Toby that companies won't switch their desktops if full Exchange compatibility isn't reached and if Evolution stops being the memory beast it currently is.
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Member since:2006-02-01
Why I'm taking the time to spell this out I really don't know. My original post was that the copy buffer in X does not care what program you are copying and pating from or to, which is exactly correct. You decided to post a smartass comment saying it wasn't and then when roverrobot reiterated my exact comment, you then said it was correct. At this point in the thread your just uninformed and should back out of the thread, but no you again decided to flat out troll my posts and start in with this "son" bullshit. I know exactly who my father is, and he was a damn sight better educated then you. Again, I'm done with you. If you feel the need to post yet another troll after this, go for it, but you've already been filtered in my thread views as you obviously have nothing to add to any conversation.
Member since:2006-02-15
My original post was that the copy buffer in X does not care what program you are copying and pating from or to, which is exactly correct.
Actually, here's what your original post in this exchange had to say about X:
I hear people bitching about copy and paste between different applications and on different window managers. Here's a little tip, don't do it the way Windows does. Highlight the text and middle click on the target. It's so simple it's painfully obvious. Not only that, but this is a feature of X itself. X does not care what program you're doing this from/to and it damn well doesn't care about your window manager. It just works.
It contains several mistakes that I pointed out:
* "middle click" ain't that "simple" to people used to two button mice.
* Not all two button mice can synthesize "middle click". The glidepoint on my laptop, for example cannot.
* It only works if the event bindings are set so that "middle click" is properly bound.
* There are applications, such as emacs that don't cut the highlighted region -- Cut is a separate operation from paste.
* ICCM doesn't "just work", it requires that the programs themselves actually implement copy-and-paste, which not all gui programs do.
and one I didn't:
* You only described half of copy and paste.
(By the way, you didn't mention the copy buffer at all.)
Granted, I replied with my tongue in my cheek, but someone with the experience you claim to have should have figured it out; especially after I took the pain to explain further.
when roverrobot reiterated my exact comment, you then said it was correct.
roverrobot didn't reiterate your comment, even approximately. Here's roverrobot's comment that I agreed with:
So no, X does not care where the copied data is from/to, but the receiving program does.
If you believe that that is reiterating your "exact comment", I now understand where your communication problem stems from.
Of course, your best howler was when I asked what X would do if you tried to copy a gif from gimp to vi and you replied:
Nope it copies the alt tag, if there are any. X is smart enough to know a damn gif isn't going to work in vi.
which actually contradicts your claim that X "doesn't care." Not that it matters, since the statement is flat out wrong. (You might follow your own advice, son, and pull up gimp and vi and try it. You will be enlightened by the answer.)
I know exactly who my father is, and he was a damn sight better educated then you.
I dunno if he was better educated that I was or not, but he was definitely better educated than you are: Son (n) 5 Used as a familiar form of address for a young man.
If you stop behaving like a sixteen year old, I'll stop addressing you like one, son.
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2006-02-15
So what, exactly, about the ICCM is "absolute idiocy"?
X works the way I described it, son.
You guys really need to get a clue and realize that if you blast off your mouth about how experienced you are, yet turn right around and post absolute idiocy, those of us who actually do have that experience are going to call your bullshit
You know, son, calling a reference to a standard X windows document "absolute idiocy" isn't exactly proving anything, except that you can behave childishly.
You really should read the ICCM before you spout about someone else's lack of understanding of how inter client communication works in X.