Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Jul 2006 20:24 UTC, submitted by snds24
Windows Microsoft shares fell on Thursday after it declined to dampen rumours that its new Windows Vista operating system might face fresh delays. Its shares closed down 2% after a Microsoft executive appeared to avoid confirming the current January 2007 Vista release data for consumers. Instead, Microsoft's Kevin Johnson said Vista would be shipped "when it is available".
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RE: Build time
by nzjrs on Sat 29th Jul 2006 03:17 UTC in reply to "Build time"
nzjrs
Member since:
2006-01-02

While I dont disagree with what you are saying I think you are a brave person equating the Apollo project with Software Engineering.

The Apollo space program had ambitious goals, but its organisation and methodology was bult upon fundemetal systems engineering and project management techniques.

To call microsoft the greatest impotence in the industrial revolution is comparing the relativly new Science of Software Engineering with Industrial and management processes which have been in constant improvement since the industrial revoluton.

Yes it is microsofts fault they made windows so unnecessarily complex and imporssible to maintain. They made their bed and now must lie in it.

All I ask is that you compare apples with apples (Software with Software).

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RE[2]: Build time
by Umbra on Sat 29th Jul 2006 04:52 in reply to "RE: Build time"
Umbra Member since:
2006-03-06

I was referring to the time frame of 5 years of nothing from Microsoft.

On mere 5 years NASA designed, invented and built the biggest engine ever, executed the most complex mission ever to another "planet" - and returned safely back home. On mere 5 years.

Meanwhile, on 5 years, Microsoft has invented nothing and delivered nothing. The worlds biggest software company. Nothing but empty promises and security patches. They even swim in funds.

Hello stagnation !

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RE[3]: Build time
by sappyvcv on Sat 29th Jul 2006 05:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Build time"
sappyvcv Member since:
2005-07-06

You mean as far as Windows goes?

They actually have released various versions of Windows in the past 5 years. Just not a new non-Service Pack version of their Client OS.

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RE[3]: Build time
by PlatformAgnostic on Sat 29th Jul 2006 06:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Build time"
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2006-01-02

I don't think the Windows organization is as big as you think. Sure, Microsoft has 70,000 people, but I doubt more than 500 work as developers across Windows.

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RE[3]: Build time
by nzjrs on Sat 29th Jul 2006 11:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Build time"
nzjrs Member since:
2006-01-02

*sigh*

Congratiulations, your post definately appeases the masses by including a few diggs at Microsoft, their security track record and their evil capitalist ideals.

I still find it impossible to compare the Apollo space program with the development of Windows. Do you realy think that comparing what both companies acomplished over 5 years shows anything? Do you know enough about the Apollo program to even make these calls?

In the words of Dogbert: "Who needs facts when you have anecdotal evidence"

I agree that Microsoft has a track record of being terrible at shipping and developing software.

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