Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 29th Jul 2006 20:47 UTC
Opera Software Opera Software is making plans to steal market share from Microsoft. Though a launch date for Opera 10 hasn't yet been set, Opera is hoping the updated application will lure users away from Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 by building on Opera 9's use of small Web applications called widgets.
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RE: Grrrr .....
by Adurbe on Sun 30th Jul 2006 01:36 UTC in reply to "Grrrr ....."
Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

remember ms crushed netscape because it could 'replace' windows.
think of a BASIC linux distro embedded on a device that runs opera 10

office apps - MS Office live, google speadsheet as widgets
email client - gmail widget
instant message - msn, aim yada yada widgets

most of what, on a modern day PC, is 'NEEDED' can be accomplished online now. The only limiter is bandwidth.

imagine the requriement for this pc? do you even need a hard disk for example?

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RE[2]: Grrrr .....
by Jedd on Sun 30th Jul 2006 02:43 in reply to "RE: Grrrr ....."
Jedd Member since:
2005-07-06

w00t! Right on man! I wholeheartedly agree. Fscking widgets are stupid imho, the whole idea smells like a pile of month old meat rotting in the sun.

/can't stand widgets

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RE[2]: Grrrr .....
by WorknMan on Sun 30th Jul 2006 03:46 in reply to "RE: Grrrr ....."
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

most of what, on a modern day PC, is 'NEEDED' can be accomplished online now. The only limiter is bandwidth.


Curious if you could (or if you would want to) do the following online:

1. Watch/burn DVDs
2. Play the latest 3D games
3. Create/edit audio and/or video
4. Manage files using something with a lot more functionality than Windows Explorer
5. Could we get Trillian or Gaim to work on this platform?

And well, there are numerous other things. For example, I have a piece of software that I use to patch (legal) game roms for play on my Nintendo DS Supercard. I could just see myself doing that on an embedded device running Opera 10.

It seems to me that this whole 'widget' thing is just a solution looking for a problem. In a few years, Oragami (sp) type devices will be powerfull enough to run full-blown operating systems with battery life that doesn't suck. Not that the whole widge/web-based platform is a bad idea, as it definitely has its uses. But one of those uses is not to replace desktops, unless your needs are very limited, in which case you could probably get by right now with a PDA/Smartphone.

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RE[3]: Grrrr .....
by Adurbe on Mon 31st Jul 2006 00:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Grrrr ....."
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

i was thinking a cheap slim client conditions not really home use. But ill take the bait and reply

1. Watch/burn DVDs
streaming an avi. I can do that now within my local network, why not online via a widget frontend?

2. Play the latest 3D games
server farms such as sun's thing recently where u rent cpu time.
under current models this might not be viable but if it cost a nominal amount, why not? you pay for WoW. why not have them do more of the number crunching on your behalf?

3. Create/edit audio and/or video
def server farms. Just write the gui in java.

4. Manage files using something with a lot more functionality than Windows Explorer
Ive written an ftp client in java, you could move, make folders, yada yada just using little more than the basic ftp protacol. Extend that and you have a file manager
(this one is assuming the scenario where you have no hd and all your files all online or in a central company filestore)

5. Could we get Trillian or Gaim to work on this platform?
multipul protocals messengers can be made using a java (widget) front end so im confused why this one is even.

obviously none of this would be viable under current internet speeds. But it wasnt THAT long ago when my 9600 was the dogs!!

also you can always argue local hardware is gonna be faster. But if you cant afford it, its not help to anyone. The idea of my posts is to get people think of an alternate scenario as opposed to the way its done now.

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