Linked by Eugenia Loli-Queru on Mon 31st Jul 2006 18:05 UTC, submitted by boklm
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris The first beta version of Mandriva Linux 2007 has been released. Available in four differents flavours live/install CDs (KDE or GNOME, i586 or x86_64) or in a whole new dual architecture Installation DVD, get a glimpse of the next Mandriva Linux 2007 edition.
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RE[6]: -devel packages
by Eugenia on Mon 31st Jul 2006 22:30 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: -devel packages"
Eugenia
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2005-06-28

What you don't realize is that this is just utopia. Yes, it would be all nice if there were graphical installers for everything. But the reality is that they are not.

And until they are, SOME users WILL have to use the command line to COMPILE applications. And for THESE users, the headers must be part of the main package too. And no, it doesn't mean that these users who occasionally compile an app are actually developers. They are users who are FORCED to use compilation because of the daily realities of the GNU/Linux environment in general.

So, there is no reason to close your eyes with a blindfold saying that "you don't have to compile" so I won't give you the -devel packages, because we all know that at some point we all will have to compile something for one reason or another.

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RE[7]: -devel packages
by netpython on Tue 1st Aug 2006 07:16 in reply to "RE[6]: -devel packages"
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2005-07-06

SOME users WILL have to use the command line to COMPILE applications.

Especially those users most of the times know exactly what they are doing.What's the use of a custom install if they don't?

On FC i have more than 7000 packages at my disposal.Far more than i ever will use much less comprehend.Nonetheless sometimes i know i have to compile something from source,kradio for $ARCH = x86_64.You simply can't include every possible package.

So while at the cli anyway i got a great view at an error message complaining libsndfile something.Back at the yumex GUI i simply added libsnd-devel to the install que.All very basic stuff.Perhaps a bit different for windows users but nonetheless very basic.
Somewhere they had to draw a line between usability and utter needless pampering and i think the balance between them isn't so bad when you take the majority of linux distros into account.

If you can think,the OS doesn't matter that much.

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