Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Aug 2006 17:50 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Novell and Ximian In a change of heart, Novell has ceased distributing proprietary software modules such as 3D video drivers that plug into the Linux kernel. The change came with Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Server 10, released in July. With the move, Novell is aligning itself with the Free Software Foundation, which shuns proprietary software in general but in particular loathes proprietary modules that run as a component of the open-source Linux kernel.
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RE[2]: Bad decision
by Eugenia on Tue 1st Aug 2006 18:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Bad decision"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

Working out of the box is different than "working later". Especially if there are network drivers that you need to manually download and you don't have drivers to connect to begin with. Some users will end up in the chicken and the egg problem.

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RE[3]: Bad decision
by Sphinx on Tue 1st Aug 2006 18:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad decision"
Sphinx Member since:
2005-07-09

Name one single closed source network driver that's not in the kernel. Any practical example at all or are we just stirring anti-novell FUD here?

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RE[4]: Bad decision
by Eugenia on Tue 1st Aug 2006 18:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Bad decision"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

from the article: "some software-based modems, and ISDN networking equipment from AVM"

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RE[4]: Bad decision
by anonymous_coward on Tue 1st Aug 2006 21:05 in reply to "RE[3]: Bad decision"
anonymous_coward Member since:
2005-11-15

Name one single closed source network driver that's not in the kernel

madwifi -> http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html

...and yes, I'm really happy that Novell bans proprietary Linux modules ;)

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RE[4]: Bad decision
by kittynipples on Wed 2nd Aug 2006 13:02 in reply to "RE[3]: Bad decision"
kittynipples Member since:
2006-08-02

yeah, my Belkin Wireless G USB Network Adapter. I've also never been able to get my NetGear WG311v2 working without having to struggle through the NDISWRAP configuration game.

Or are these not specific enough for you?

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RE[3]: Bad decision
by rhavenn on Tue 1st Aug 2006 21:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad decision"
rhavenn Member since:
2006-05-12

Yeah, I have a HP dv8000 laptop. Windows XP will NOT install on it (it doesn't even see the hard drives) unless I purchase a external USB floppy drive and download the SATA drivers for it because XP is too brain dead to read drivers from a CD much less actualy have the drivers on the install CD itself. What a piece of shit OS Windows XP must be according to your anology. Yes, Gentoo installs just fine out of the box with no extra drivers needed. Yes, if I disable SATA and use legacy IDE mode I can install XP as well, but I shouldn't have to. Try explaining that to Joe User.

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RE[4]: Bad decision
by DrillSgt on Tue 1st Aug 2006 23:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Bad decision"
DrillSgt Member since:
2005-12-02

"Yeah, I have a HP dv8000 laptop. Windows XP will NOT install on it (it doesn't even see the hard drives) unless I purchase a external USB floppy drive and download the SATA drivers for it because XP is too brain dead to read drivers from a CD much less actualy have the drivers on the install CD itself."

Ermmm..you do know that you bought that laptop with Windows XP installed on it..right? And that if you were to use the CD's that came with it to restore your installation the drivers are slip streamed on it so it works..right? Just checking....

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RE[3]: Bad decision
by Bink on Tue 1st Aug 2006 21:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Bad decision"
Bink Member since:
2006-02-19

If the hardware specifications were open and free to open source developers, it is likely your hardware would work "right out of the box" to begin with. "Open your eyes" and realize this benefits YOU (the consumer).

This is great news--seeing a commercial entity value openness. I look forward to more open hardware specifications and better supported hardware.

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