Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 7th Aug 2006 18:30 UTC
Apple At the 2006 WWDC in San Fransisco, Apple CEO Steve Jobs announced several new products during his opening keynote speech. Read more for a chronological summary of the keynote-- including the much-debated preview of Mac OS 10.5, Leopard, which, according to Steve Jobs, will ship this spring. Update: Apparantly, a similar feature to Time Machine already exists in Linux. It is called 'Dervish'.
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RE: No builtin Remote Desktop?
by Roguelazer on Mon 7th Aug 2006 18:58 UTC in reply to "No builtin Remote Desktop?"
Roguelazer
Member since:
2005-06-29

You mean something like Apple Remote Desktop, which is built into every version of OS X since at least 10.3 (that's when I started using it). You can view it either with the reasonably cheap Remote Desktop application or with a standard VNC viewer. Apple's Remote Desktop does much more than Microsoft's, as well. You can manange multiple machines from one application, perform remote operations (installing software, rebooting, etc.) without actually logging into the machine, you can group and bookmark machines. You can generate reports about one or many machines of what software & hardware they have installed, accounts, file systems, whatever. It greatly simplifies running large labs of Macs.

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ronaldst Member since:
2005-06-29

No, I mean like the built-in Remote Desktop (RDP).

Not the software from Apple that is purchased seperately. IIRC Panther never included remote desktop capabilities.

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Roguelazer Member since:
2005-06-29

Yes, the BUILT-IN Remote Desktop. ARD server is built into every release of OS X. The viewer costs money, but you can download a free copy of VNC for any operating system any time you'd like, and the ARD server includes a built-in VNC server. It's not like RDP is a standard feature on Windows, anyway. Since it's not included in Windows XP Home, that means that the majority of users will never see or use it. Just fyi, ARD's been out since 2002, and has supported VNC since 2004. Read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Remote_Desktop

:-)

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kadymae Member since:
2005-08-02

Not the software from Apple that is purchased seperately. IIRC Panther never included remote desktop capabilities.

I call horsefeathers on you.

I run 10.3 at home. Remote desktop is AN INCLUDED, BUILT IN FEATURE. You can't miss it, because you're prompted to install updates to it on a regular basis.

In fact, I was asked to download and install the latest update last night. And, infact, when I get home, if you still doubt me, I can provide a screencap, and I'll even have the "About This Mac" window open, too.

(I'll be asked to install the update to Remote Desktop again as soon as I hit Software Update. [Since it's a feature that I've locked out of use, I don't bother updating it often and will be prompted to do so.])

Edited to clarify:

OP said OS X had no remote desktop built in. It does, but what it doesn't have is a fancy GUI interface built in. That's different than saying there's no remote desktop/remote access capablilites.

Edited 2006-08-07 19:29

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PowerMacX Member since:
2005-11-06

The ARD server is built in in Tiger, just use any free VNC client. As for Leopard, I guess you didn't see this (and it wasn't mentioned in the keynote):

From Apple's "Mac OS X - Leopard Sneak Peek - iChat" page:

"Filled with fun new features, iChat turns any mere video chat into an event. Video backdrops, Photo Booth effects, photo slideshows, Keynote presentations, or an entire Mac desktop — you can share it all with iChat in Mac OS X Leopard."
(bold added by me)

Look at the video on top of that page, or read the paragraph under the "Share and share alike" heading. The video is nicer ;-)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/ichat.html

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Bit_Rapist Member since:
2005-11-13

Apple's Remote Desktop does much more than Microsoft's, as well. You can manange multiple machines from one application, perform remote operations (installing software, rebooting, etc.) without actually logging into the machine, you can group and bookmark machines. You can generate reports about one or many machines of what software & hardware they have installed, accounts, file systems, whatever. It greatly simplifies running large labs of Macs.

In all fairness you can achieve these same results with Microsoft Management Console on windows, which is what a lot of admins use for various system administration so there really is no need for it to be included in RDP.

Sounds like a nice app that apple has put together all the same!

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StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

I've used the VNC software on quite a few different combinations of platforms - and while it's handy (especially listen mode), unless Apple has somehow made their implementation orders of magnitude faster than the other impelmentations out there, it doesn't really compare to RDP.

VNC, as far as I can tell, sends images of what's running on the server (essentially a stream of screenshots, updated constantly so they appear live). RDP, on the other hand, appears to be much more comparable to exporting an X session under *nix.

There are, of course, tricks that even the free VNC implementations use to increase speed (polling only the foreground window / under the mouse cursor). But it's still been much slower than RDP in my experience.

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