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Member since:2005-08-02
For the opera stuff, they have a new commercial repo, but it's not in the standard dapper drake since it's quite new, it contains opera:
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
And if you go to the Ubuntu forums, you will find several threads asking *why* Opera wasn't showing up in Synaptic, even though the poster had read the instructions and clicked all the correct repositories.
Then we discovered the repositiory contains only the x86 version of Opera. (I downloaded and installed my copy by hand. [See note below])
But I think you can imagine how confusing and frustrating this was for newcomers who were DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAD BEEN TOLD TO DO and not getting the results they had been told they would get.
Really, why can't we have a go out, download it, make with the double clicky install across the board?
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As an aside, when I downloaded Opera 9 on Xubuntu, by force of habit I made with the double clicky. An. Installer. Opened. (It even told me the names of two libraries I was missing and needed.) I almost fell over from shock. Gnome has never done this for me. It must be unique to Thunar.
Because of this (despite a few other rough edges in the file manager) Team Thunar has my undying love.
Member since:2006-01-09
Somebody else already addressed some of your points earlier on this thread but his answer was too RPM specific and since youīre talking about Ubuntu and its derivatives here, I would like to add to his answer (even though I donīt use Ubuntu, but I think that it applies nonetheless).
First, you expressed a concern about keeping the files on your harddrive so that you can reinstall everything from scratch without having to download everything again. Well, Debian allows one to do it (Iīm using this term loosely here as I think that it will apply to Ubuntu and most Debian-based distros). All that you have to do is to save the content of /var/apt/cache. Everything that Synaptic/apt/aptitude download is put in there with its dependencies included.
You also said you really need to know where is a given program. You can do that fairly easy by typing which opera (as on your example) on the console. The result will give you its path on the system as long as its is on $PATH (as it should be for an application). If you need more information than that, you can always query the package manager about it:
$ dpkg -l | grep -i opera
$ dpkg -L opera-whatever-version-here-gave-on-previous-step
Probably the GUI utilities for package management will provide a way to query this. I know for instance that KPackage does it, which leads me to another of your issues.
I donīt use GNOME that much and has been a while since the last time that I played with XFCE, but as far as KDE is concerned, if you have KPackage installed, Konqueror automatically associate Debian packages MIME-Type to it, so that all that you have to do it is give a single click on the package. If youīre running on a non priviledged account, itīs going to popup the dialog box asking for your root password (here I think that Ubuntu wonīt ask anything) and then present you the options to verify and then install the package if you wish so.
Edited 2006-08-08 18:38
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2005-08-15
What do you need to know where it's been installed for?
For the opera stuff, they have a new commercial repo, but it's not in the standard dapper drake since it's quite new, it contains opera:
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main