Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th Aug 2006 13:02 UTC, submitted by Moulinneuf
Linspire Three weeks ahead of schedule, version 1.0 of Freespire, the no-cost community version of Linspire, is now available from the project's website. You can download a completely open source version, or a version that includes various proprietary codecs and drivers for an improved out-the-box experience. Screenshots.
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RE: Seems rushed...
by butters on Tue 8th Aug 2006 15:22 UTC in reply to "Seems rushed..."
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I'm sure this distribution will be fine, and it will pull in some leech-like users that don't like to spend money on software.

However if the purpose is to attract a community of contributors, then I don't know what Carmony is smoking these days. Linspire doesn't have a track record of contributing to OSS, asserting technical leadership in the community, or driving open standards. As far as I can tell, there's no way to submit bugs, there's no CVS/SVN source repository (just 2 iso files), and there's hardly any technical documentation at all. This is a 1.0 release!?

Hello, you can't just put up a forums and a wiki skeleton and say, "come on in, it's free!!" Seems rushed would be a huge understatement. Freespire is trying to create life without any carbon, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that this won't work.

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RE[2]: Seems rushed...
by Devilotx on Tue 8th Aug 2006 15:25 in reply to "RE: Seems rushed..."
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actually Linspire DOES contribute alot to OSS

yes some are "Linspire" products, but they do contribute.

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RE[3]: Seems rushed...
by deanlinkous on Tue 8th Aug 2006 16:29 in reply to "RE[2]: Seems rushed..."
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No a BUNCH of those are linspire projects. ;) I think the problem is they like to say "heavily involved" like they have 20 developers working on nothing but that.That is one of my complaints with any company - just plain being misleading and trying to put a halo over the horns.:) Linspire should stop tooting it's own horn, making statements about how others are doing something they consider bad if they want to stop being looked at critically. You know the glass houses thingy.:)

Some of the others on there they contribute to ONLY because they want to improve it for themselves or they think they are paying for a advantage.

I have never seen a dollar amount stated for any of that support. They support the DCC alliance? It is a group of distros getting together sharing work to create a base distro. What does that have to do with much of anything? ;)

The stuff they contribute is often friviolous or redundant kind of stuff. But I do agree they do contribute some, but no reason to make it sound as if they are the contribution kings.:) Of course I guess the OSS edition could also be considered a contribution now. I wonder if that includes the installer as well as other items like artwork?hmmm...

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RE[3]: Seems rushed...
by kernelpanicked on Wed 9th Aug 2006 00:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Seems rushed..."
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"Linspire founded, maintains, and is the lead sponsor for Nvu, a complete, easy-to-use Web Authoring System for Linux (such as FrontPage and Dreamweaver)."

You do know this is Mozilla Composer with a purple icon right? This isn't the only example either. Linspire has a bad habit of leeching of other people's work without giving proper credit.

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RE[2]: Seems rushed...
by deanlinkous on Tue 8th Aug 2006 15:54 in reply to "RE: Seems rushed..."
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They have to start somewhere. Track records can change and it has to start somewhere. As I stated earlier I this is the start down the path and I hope they continue. If they are criticisized for honestly trying to do better then I don't see that as providing motivation to continue. Should we not allow a distro to change and evolve? I don't see some of that stuff you mention as being that important. They have done more than you give them credit for also and I believe they are honestly working on this as quickly as resources allow.

I do think they have a lot of areas to improve upon but I dont think it is fair to criticise them for starting to do just that.

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RE[2]: Seems rushed...
by deanlinkous on Tue 8th Aug 2006 15:59 in reply to "RE: Seems rushed..."
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leech? A leech would have to be a burden, something that drains resources. How would someone taking software that is freely given be a leech? I don't like to spend money on software - when there are software choices that do not cost money that work for me. What is so wrong with that?

I don't go out and hand out free soup at the kitchen and then complain when someone actually takes it.

You first say "will be fine" and at the end you say"this won't work" so which is it?:)

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