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Linux Check inside for our photo review of this year's LinuxWorld. In short, Novell rocked the show, while Red Hat and Sun were missing completely! We think that there were fewer people visiting this year... However, we got to see the new PalmSource ALP OS, we chatted with Motorola about their Linux SDK's state of affairs and more!
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RE[5]: Interesting
by twenex on Thu 17th Aug 2006 09:44 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Interesting"
twenex
Member since:
2006-04-21

Ford have come out time and again saying they make money from cars, not vegetables. But then, they don't sell vegetables.

Perhaps the reason RedHat aren't making money from desktops is that they don't offer a desktop distribution for sale?

And no, RedHat do NOT "sell licences", since that implies (a) a right on the part of the client to use the software which the buyer would otherwise not have (false, since one can get Linux from any number of distributors, and RHEL itself from several), and (b) an exclusive right to licence RHEL on the part of Red Hat. The only thing Red Hat can "licence" is their trademark, which is why Centos go to great lengths to remove it from their (freely obtained and therefore non-licensed and non-licensable) Red Hat based distribution.

Of course, one can include non-GPL'd and therefore separately licensable software with a Linux distribution. However, Red Hat doesn't.

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RE[6]: Interesting
by happycamper on Thu 17th Aug 2006 10:42 in reply to "RE[5]: Interesting"
happycamper Member since:
2006-01-01

Perhaps the reason RedHat aren't making money from desktops is that they don't offer a desktop distribution for sale?


I thought Red Hat Enterprise linux WS was Red Hat's desktop distribution

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RE[7]: Interesting
by twenex on Thu 17th Aug 2006 11:09 in reply to "RE[6]: Interesting"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Maybe it is; however, if it is, I haven't heard anyone claim RH is not making money on it, which goes to the heart of the argument I was responding to.

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RE[6]: Interesting
by binarycrusader on Thu 17th Aug 2006 11:17 in reply to "RE[5]: Interesting"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Of course, one can include non-GPL'd and therefore separately licensable software with a Linux distribution. However, Red Hat doesn't.

Except for RedHat Satellite Server, which has an extremely restrictive license. Unless of course this has changed, and you can point out where I can download the source to it...

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RE[6]: Interesting
by Lambda on Thu 17th Aug 2006 11:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Interesting"
Lambda Member since:
2006-07-28

RedHat sells per-system service and support contracts. You can call it whatever you want. And RedHat can use whatever semantics they want to. The effect is the same.

The relevant info is:

From https://www.redhat.com/apps/commerce/open/agreements.html

4. REPORTING AND AUDIT. If Customer wishes to increase the number of Installed System, then Customer will purchase from Red Hat additional Services for each additional Installed System. During the term of this Agreement and for one (1) year thereafter, Customer expressly grants to Red Hat the right to audit Customer's facilities and records from time to time in order to verify Customer's compliance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement

So the bottom line is that you can't just buy a RedHat enterprise "service and support" contract and then install the distro on all your machines.

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RE[7]: Interesting
by twenex on Thu 17th Aug 2006 13:17 in reply to "RE[6]: Interesting"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I didn't say you could. All I said was that RH cannot restrict others from downloading GPL software.

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RE[7]: Interesting
by porcel on Thu 17th Aug 2006 13:45 in reply to "RE[6]: Interesting"
porcel Member since:
2006-01-28

Of course you can install RHES on however many systems you want.

Red Hat will just only support it for whatever server configuration you bought suppport for.

Your posting on this whole thread is nothing but a silly Anti-Linux anti Red-Hat crusade and smells of astroturfing.

I hope you are getting paid for this.

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