Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 17th Aug 2006 02:54 UTC, submitted by george
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y OpenSolaris isn't a true open-source project, but rather a "facade," because Sun Microsystems doesn't share control of it with outsiders, executives from rival IBM say.
Thread beginning with comment 153127
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[2]: How about an actual install?
by mario on Thu 17th Aug 2006 12:05 UTC in reply to "RE: How about an actual install?"
mario
Member since:
2005-07-06

As someone already noted (but you failed to read): did you try to install Solaris Express, the binary distribution of Opensolaris?

Reply Parent Score: 1

segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

As someone already noted (but you failed to read): did you try to install Solaris Express, the binary distribution of Opensolaris?

Can you compile everything released as a part of OpenSolaris and get a working system like Solaris Express at the end of it?

No. As a result, OpenSolaris is not a real open source project. As I've pointed out, just look at the difficulties OpenDarwin got into.

Reply Parent Score: 2

SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

I modded you up 1 from 0 because you are correct. From what I understand, Nexenta is still linking everything against Sun's CDDL c libraries which are GPL incompatible.

OpenSolaris is a very good marketing ploy + an easy way for Sun to look good while still holding onto the crown jewels. It also allows them to offset development costs slightly.

What could Sun do to have a "real" open source project? Put OpenSolaris in a public cvs repository and give outside contributors (read non-Sun employees) full commit acess to it. Make the engineering and design decisions on a public and non-moderated mailinglist while being open to outside ideas. Do you see this happening? No you don't.

Sorry Sun, no cookie for you.
Edit: Fixed a typo

Edited 2006-08-17 13:36

Reply Parent Score: 2

binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Can you compile everything released as a part of OpenSolaris and get a working system like Solaris Express at the end of it?

Yes, you can compile all of the source that is released for OpenSolaris and get a working system. How do you think SchilliX happened?

No. As a result, OpenSolaris is not a real open source project. As I've pointed out, just look at the difficulties OpenDarwin got into.

Oh, but it is a *real* open source project with a *real* open source licensed approved by the *real* Open Source Initiative organisation.

Or are all of the "working" OpenSolaris distributions "fake," like GNU/Solaris http://www.gnusolaris.org/gswiki or SchilliX, etc?

Was SuSE fake back when YaST was under a different license? The list goes on.

Are Linux systems that use binary blobs for their WiFi drivers or Video drivers "fake"?

If not, then I don't see how OpenSolaris is.

Reply Parent Score: 3

twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

No, and a binary-only OS, or a supposedly "open" OS with binary-only bits in, is not "open". It is at best "ajar".

Reply Parent Score: -1

binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

I guess Linux distributions with nVidia / ATi / Intel binary blob drivers aren't "open" either then...

Reply Parent Score: 1