Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 19th Aug 2006 02:07 UTC
Opera Software "The DS Browser ends up becoming a bullet point for the Nintendo DS system's capabilities. Yes, the Nintendo DS can now surf the internet. But after the novelty wears off, you probably won't want to", Craig Harris writes in his review. Craig was very kind to send us a DS screenshot rendering the mobile version of OSNews, although the browser seems to interpret "100%" of cell width as 800px wide instead of DS' 256px native resolution. Update: Craig sent us another shot, this time using the "small screen rendering" mode, which looked much better.
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RE: Hate to break it to you
by Eugenia on Sat 19th Aug 2006 04:48 UTC in reply to "Hate to break it to you"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

I am sorry, but you didn't get it right. The mobile browsers are AUTODETECTED on osnews and they are served a DIFFERENT source code. Didn't you see in the screenshots that it looked different than the version you quoted? ;)

The mobile version of osnews has width 100%, not 765px.

Edited 2006-08-19 05:00

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deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

>> I am sorry, but you didn't get it right. The mobile browsers are AUTODETECTED on osnews and they are served a DIFFERENT source code

My bad, although that seems like an awful lot of effort when you could probably just write once and be done with it. (well, except for WAP which should get it's own since that's not HTML)

Hey, at least I didn't do the XHMTL fanboy ranting and raving about how you used tables for layout. ;)

Given how it rendered though, I would wonder if there isn't some element on the page pushing it to that limit - the odd spacing of the navigation table for example makes me think something's not kosher there.

Do you have any cgi flags in place that can 'force' OSNews into feeding specific versions? I'd be interested in seeing what the desktop copy of Opera does at various settings (such as the small screen previewer)

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RE[3]: Hate to break it to you
by Eugenia on Sat 19th Aug 2006 15:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Hate to break it to you"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

> I would wonder if there isn't some element on the page pushing it to that limit

Nope, it's all 100%. It makes sense for normal desktop websites for the browser to have such a 800px limit. Pocket IE has this limit too. Webkit on Symbian too. However, when a site does fit on the native res of the device, they don't stretch to 800. That's where the bug is. The idea for 800px is correct, it's just that Opera DS' implementation needs polishing. My main problem is that other versions of Opera Mobile don't have this problem.

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RE[3]: Hate to break it to you
by Eugenia on Sat 19th Aug 2006 15:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Hate to break it to you"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

>Hey, at least I didn't do the XHMTL fanboy ranting and raving about how you used tables for layout. ;)

XHTML does not work as well as cHTML does for all the browsers we support. We don't have this special support only for mobiles, but for embedded and text mode browsers. And these browsers only barely manage to do HTML.

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electricmew Member since:
2006-08-18

huh, intresting. When you start doing real web work, you'll know there are just times you have to use tables for containers. The tables on osnews DO encapsulate data, and its a valid use for tables.

google news is an excellent example. also, php.net is all payed out via tables. The simple fact is, you can't do everything you can do with tables compared to css. Visa versa as well. Its best for any real programmer not to be religious about these type of ordeals.

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