Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 19th Aug 2006 02:07 UTC
Opera Software "The DS Browser ends up becoming a bullet point for the Nintendo DS system's capabilities. Yes, the Nintendo DS can now surf the internet. But after the novelty wears off, you probably won't want to", Craig Harris writes in his review. Craig was very kind to send us a DS screenshot rendering the mobile version of OSNews, although the browser seems to interpret "100%" of cell width as 800px wide instead of DS' 256px native resolution. Update: Craig sent us another shot, this time using the "small screen rendering" mode, which looked much better.
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RE[3]: Hate to break it to you
by Eugenia on Sat 19th Aug 2006 15:53 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Hate to break it to you"
Eugenia
Member since:
2005-06-28

> I would wonder if there isn't some element on the page pushing it to that limit

Nope, it's all 100%. It makes sense for normal desktop websites for the browser to have such a 800px limit. Pocket IE has this limit too. Webkit on Symbian too. However, when a site does fit on the native res of the device, they don't stretch to 800. That's where the bug is. The idea for 800px is correct, it's just that Opera DS' implementation needs polishing. My main problem is that other versions of Opera Mobile don't have this problem.

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deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

Well, I just got my hands on one for a couple hours - and I think I found the 'issue'

It is NOT Opera mobile, but a modified version of full blown opera able to handle full blown XHTML... The browser in normal (non small screen) operation is SUPPOSED to emulate a 800x600 display 'shrunk' to fit on the top lcd, and a zoomed in box on the bottom one. Really slick as you are able to send it to most any site 'desktop' opera can view and have no problems (apart from scrolling around a whole lot, though the controls for that are fairly intuitive)

As such this site should be sending the DS the full 'normal' version of the site, not the reduced.

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anonymousbrowser Member since:
2006-04-28

Well, good work finding the issue, i think it's been made clear from every preview of Opera DS ever written that it IS NOT just a mini browser like their java product, how on earth are you people managing to become so confused by the matter? are you all browsing with opera mini on mobile phones and are thus unable to see the full photographs in the review?

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RE[5]: Hate to break it to you
by Eugenia on Sun 20th Aug 2006 19:34 in reply to "RE[4]: Hate to break it to you"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

DeathShadow, you are again dis-representing the fact. You see, as I said above, having such SVGA LCD limit, is the CORRECT thing to do. And it IS Opera Mobile btw. Opera Mobile does have that SVGA limit too, just like PocketIE and Webkit too on Symbian.

But the difference is, that it is not INTELLIGENT enough on its algorithm on how to use this feature. It should make a check and see if the site FITS on the native resolution before it goes all blown away to SVGA. That's what Webkit does, look screenshot here: http://osnews.com/img/12965/s60-6.jpg This is webkit's mini map of the whole page. The native resolution of the screen is 352x416, and it DOES also have this 800x600 trick. However, Webkit does it the RIGHT way: it checks first if it fits on its native res before it goes all blow up to SVGA. This is why the minimap is just a long strip instead of a full screen map of the site (like it is in the first opera shot in this story).

And that's where the Opera Mobile bug is. Not in the fact that it uses SVGA as its max resolution, but in the fact that it doesn't have a good implementation of it.

Edited 2006-08-20 19:37

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