Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st Aug 2006 14:19 UTC, submitted by Jane Walker
Linux The Linux desktop has made great strides in just the last few months, and experts at the LinuxWorld Conference & Exhibition in San Francisco see much more to come. Talk about technological issues is finally turning into successful deployments. John Cherry, the Desktop Linux Initiative manager for Open Source Developer Labs, spoke with about the progress of the Portland Project's beta release of its programming interfaces for the GNOME and KDE environments.
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RE: Drivers
by Ookaze on Tue 22nd Aug 2006 15:05 UTC in reply to "Drivers"
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I understand why Linux distros canít include closed source drivers, I can see why binary blobs arenít desirable and why GPL fundis want to preserve GPL etc, etc.

Actually you didn't understand anything, as shown below.
And distro can include closed source drivers, but only if the license allows them to do so.

However, I want to use compiz etc. I donít mind if my Suse, Ubuntu etc doesnít work out of the box as long as itís easy to find and install the drives I need, I understand the drivers canít included as such, but links to where I can get the drivers or instructions to how to add repositories where the drivers can be found would be/is good. Why not a CD full of useful stuff downloaded from the net (like you get with PC mags) included with my boxed set disto?

See ? You don't understand anything. They can't put your NVidia binary drivers on a CD specifically because of the license of such drivers.
Only commercial distro versions which have specific agreements to distribute the NVidia drivers can do so (like Mandriva Powerpack) for example.
None have the right to distribute w32codec pack though, or have the weight to take the risk of doing that.

What bothers me is people being hostile to the hardware companies for producing the closed source drivers, yes Iíd rather they open sourced them, but Iím thankful they produce Linux drivers at all

That's because you're clueless, again.
People are not hostile to the hardware companies, people complain (and rightly so) when a lot of new powerful features are added on their Linux OS, and the sole thing that prevents them from using these features is the closed source drivers, and only them. So people want to have an open driver.
If you have a NVidia card today on Linux, you have a hard time using features of XOrg 7.1.

It would be much worse without any for e.g. 3D drivers. If the open source community gives these companies nothing but grief for producing these Linux drivers, they might just stop supporting Linux altogether Ė I donít want to use the nv or vesa drivers, and I donít think Iím alone

A clueless comment again.
You're still part of those people that believe NVidia started developing these drivers for home users' sake.
It never occurred to you that this was primarily for professionals, where the money is. Look at the last update, it's mostly for the professional cards (those you'll never buy), while we cry for months for them to add what is necessary for home desktop features of XOrg.
For NVidia, these Linux desktops at ILM have to work before your compiz, that's their choice.

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