Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 31st Aug 2006 01:29 UTC, submitted by sequethin
NetBSD Charles Hannum, co-founder of NetBSD posted to 3 major BSD lists saying that "The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has gotten to the point that being associated with the project is often more of a liability than an asset. I will attempt to explain how this happened, what the current state of affairs is, and what needs to be done to attempt to fix the situation."
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RE: Linux
by asenchi on Thu 31st Aug 2006 04:48 UTC in reply to "Linux"
asenchi
Member since:
2006-08-31

"You don't need to have some special bit, or be inducted into the club, or have a "mentor" before you can get a patch in. You just have to write good code."

Wow, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. I am not sure you should say such things until you look at the source for *BSD's and then compare it to Linux. Linux source code is disgusting and someday will come back to bite...

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RE[2]: Linux
by nick on Thu 31st Aug 2006 04:59 in reply to "RE: Linux"
nick Member since:
2006-04-17

Wow, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. I am not sure you should say such things until you look at the source for *BSD's and then compare it to Linux. Linux source code is disgusting and someday will come back to bite...

Actually I have looked at parts of Linux and FreeBSD
(VM in particular) kernel source code. I happen to
think there is nothing wrong with Linux.

But you don't have to take my word for it:
http://lwn.net/1999/0121/a/vmreview.html

"In general terms, linux's VM system is much cleaner
then FreeBSD's... and I mean a *whole lot* cleaner"

"Well, the main thing is that the Linux VM system is
very, very clean compared to the FreeBSD implementation."

"Linux demarks interrupts from supervisor code much
better then we do."

And while FreeBSD may have been improved since then,
it retains the same overall VM design from that time,
as does Linux (although Linux now has a reverse
mapping infrastructure).

What makes you say it is disgusting?

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RE[3]: Linux
by lopisaur on Thu 31st Aug 2006 16:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Linux"
lopisaur Member since:
2006-02-27

That was written by Matt Dillon, who went on to fork FreeBSD and created DragonflyBSD, since he didn't like the project's direction back then. While Matt certainly has/had a point, I PERSONALLY (don't want to start a flamewar or insult Matt in any way) think the cavallier thing for him to do would have been to stick with the punches and keep on working on FreeBSD as he was (and I believe he was doing some pretty good work).

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RE[3]: Linux
by bubbayank on Thu 31st Aug 2006 16:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Linux"
bubbayank Member since:
2005-07-15

But you don't have to take my word for it:
http://lwn.net/1999/0121/a/vmreview.html


No, I don't. I also don't have to take an article that is SEVEN YEARS OLD as some kind of "proof" either. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd realize that some time after that Matt and others totally revamped the VM and it currently bears no resemblance to the old system.

Nice troll though!

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