Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 31st Aug 2006 01:29 UTC, submitted by sequethin
NetBSD Charles Hannum, co-founder of NetBSD posted to 3 major BSD lists saying that "The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has gotten to the point that being associated with the project is often more of a liability than an asset. I will attempt to explain how this happened, what the current state of affairs is, and what needs to be done to attempt to fix the situation."
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h3rman
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2006-08-09

Thanks for those comments. It's very interesting to see that these open source projects develop their own, unintended dynamic.

However,

"Linus had the foresight to play to the crowd."

I don't think that was intended or in any way a "foresight". As Torvalds has himself said, he didn't really feel like working out all the "boring" stuff, at least, what he himself found less exciting, that you have to do to create an OS out of a kernel. That's why he sent his kernel into the world. But then, how many things that bring about change in the world are really intended ?

I also heard a lot of BSD users are former Linux users that got disappointed at the "messy" or "dirty hack" nature of Linux code. I have no way of judging this, but what do you guys think, is there anything objective to say about these assertions? And isn't all that only relevant to developers?

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Cloudy Member since:
2006-02-15

When Linus started on Linux, he announced it on comp.os.research. Even that post had an appeal for cooperation. But the 'playing to the crowd' I was thinking of includes things like the playful nature of penguins dominating the world.

Whether BSD or Linux has a cleaner code base is indirectly interesting to users. Messy, hacked systems are difficult to maintain and tend to be buggy. They also tend to get buggier quicker than well planned systems as features are added.

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

When Linus started on Linux, he announced it on comp.os.research.

comp.os.minix, iirc.

But the 'playing to the crowd' I was thinking of includes things like the playful nature of penguins dominating the world.

How is Beastie not "playful"? I know that all three BSD's now use official logos because they are frightened of offending fundamentalists (that they feel they need to is in my opinion more frightening), but changing the logo for that purpose sounds like "playing to the crowd" too.

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