Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Sep 2006 20:56 UTC, submitted by thebluesgnr
SuSE, openSUSE openSUSE 10.2 Alpha4 has been released. It features GNOME 2.15.92 with Novell's Slab menu, KDE with the Kickoff menu, Xorg 7.1, kernel 2.6.18rc5, lots of improvements on the package management (if it was as bad as SLED 10's, they'd better), and other improvements.
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RE[2]: How does it compare to SLED?
by dagw on Fri 8th Sep 2006 09:50 UTC in reply to "RE: How does it compare to SLED?"
dagw
Member since:
2005-07-06

About YaST; when you launch it from a non root account it doesn't ask for a root password, so you can do pretty much nothing from it.

It does(or at least did) however ask you for the root password the first time you try to do something that requires one. I consider this a good and sensible approach. First of all in a multi user envitonment most users don't know the root password so being able to open YaST and see everything they can do without a root password is a good thing. Secondly I personally think that in general asking for the root should be done at the last possible moment. As in only when I actually try to view or write to a file I don't have permission for.

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thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

The problem is that on this release any module that requires root privileges is not visible when you run YaST from a normal user account.

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g2devi Member since:
2005-07-09

dagw is correct according to good system design, the root password should not be required until the last minute. I don't use SUSE or YaST, but if YaST is designed properly, it would would in a way analogous to this: If a module requires root permissions to use any functionality at all or view any status, that module should be displayed anyway in a list and when you click on it you'll get a request for a root password.

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

That I agree is a bug. They should somehow be visible, but somehow clearly marked as needing root privs no matter how you log in. Perhaps there can be a button to toggle between showing only things I can change and showing everything.

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