Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 10th Sep 2006 20:38 UTC, submitted by fudel
Zeta Magnussoft, the company now responsible for development on Zeta, has announced it is accepting pre-orders for Zeta 1.21. This new release will include multi-user support, will be built with GCC4, among other improvements. Bernd Korz's weblog contains more information. Korz was (is?) the CEO of YellowTAB, the company that started Zeta. Read on for a short editorial on this announcement.
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This is depressing...
by twenex on Mon 11th Sep 2006 01:52 UTC
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Sounds like Closed-Source BeOS has Amiga syndrome.

Personally, I'm putting my BeOS eggs in Haiku's basket.

Tonestone: Your view of Linux is rather inaccurate, as shown below:

Linux was started because Linus Torvalds hated the limitations of Minix and started to make what he hoped would become "a better Minix than Minix". At the time, he didn't know about BSD, which was embroiled in legal hassles. Refugees from Minix, and presumably some who had been/would have been attracted to BSD in the absence of said legal problems started hacking on Linux; it was thus popular *in the hacker community* from day one. (I use the word "hacker" here in its proper sense and not that of "computer criminal"). That very popularity is what drew the attention of Red Hat, SuSE et al.

"How good were early versions of Linux? Not too good."

On the contrary, considering that Linux was written fro the ground up (rather than being a port of an earlier system, as with the BSDs) they were very good, if you were a UNIX person - and thus more interested in stability, security and flexibility (SS&F), than ease of use (EOU).

This is why there is such a divide between Windows and Linux users - Linux users care about SS&F, and Windows users care about EOU. Only recently has each group come to care about the things the other group cares about - and arguably, a smaller percentage of the Windows user group cares about SS&F, than the percentage of Linux users who care about ease-of-use. (Indeed it may be the case that the BSD's are slowly assimilating the Linux users who don't care about EOU at all.)

The difference between BeOS and Linux, on the other hand, is that BeOS was written specifically with multimedia and EOU in mind. I haven't tried Zeta, but (especially considering they supposedly have access to the "real" BeOS source code), if it's not as good as Haiku, I'd consider that pretty poor progress.

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RE: This is depressing...
by tonestone57 on Mon 11th Sep 2006 04:10 in reply to "This is depressing..."
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When I said early Linux version weren't that good.

I meant in terms of the number of applications available, the not so great installers and small amount of drivers. These were limited or not very good in the early years.

For this reason, not that many people used Linux in the beginning. It took a couple of years (over 4 or 5) for improvements, before Linux started catching on & attracting both developers and users.

You are right about Linux SS&F, *but* I've also had SS&F with Windows XP (no viruses & I don't use virus checkers, except those for online checks, my system never crashes & applications never or rarely ever hang on me, etc.). I'm pretty happy with SS&F and Windows XP.

There are ways to eliminate (or minimize) ever getting viruses and as for hackers, well Microsoft is being more vigilant with releasing security fixes now (to improve their reputation). And using a router helps too.

Zeta uses Haiku source, plus BeOS code, Yellowtab code & now Magnussoft code (& maybe other too). Haiku is way behind Zeta, though they could catch up if more devlopers get onboard. Time will tell.

Why did Linux get to where it is now? Because it was free, open source and an alternative to Windows. Haiku will do well also, once they have released version 1.0, because they are also free, open source & an alternative to Windows, though they need to do some catching up to Linux. Haiku has the advantage of Linux programs being open sourced, so they can be ported over to Haiku also.

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