Linked by Martin Girard on Tue 12th Sep 2006 13:57 UTC
Linux You must remember the period where various electronic devices, from phones to radios, were available in transparent cases. You may have found them utterly cool. Yet the simple fact that you can't find these things on the shelves anymore (except for do-it-yourself PC cases) means the crowd doesn't find them nearly that cool. While you may not see the link yet, this is exactly why the Linux desktop will never be popular.
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RE[4]: Baloney
by charlieg on Tue 12th Sep 2006 15:09 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Baloney"
charlieg
Member since:
2005-07-25

I know hardly anybody who uses video chat let alone MSN video chat. And there is plenty of good software for video conferencing like Ekiga that works with NetMeeting and other main protocols:

www.gnomemeeting.org

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RE[5]: Baloney
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 12th Sep 2006 15:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Baloney"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

I know hardly anybody who uses video chat let alone MSN video chat. And there is plenty of good software for video conferencing like Ekiga that works with NetMeeting and other main protocols:

Welcome to Europe, where MSN has the biggest marketshare of the IM market. MSN on Linux is understandably miles behind the official client, and that just plain SUCKS. When the girl I met at the pub last night wants to do some advanced MSN stuff, Kopete/GAIM/aMSN just don't cut it.

As for Ekiga, get real. It is good, but besides three men and a cow, who really uses it?

Edited 2006-09-12 15:13

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RE[6]: Baloney
by sbenitezb on Tue 12th Sep 2006 16:04 in reply to "RE[5]: Baloney"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

"When the girl I met at the pub last night wants to do some advanced MSN stuff, Kopete/GAIM/aMSN just don't cut it. "

I would rather go for real sex or "live" contact with others. If you want to chat with other people, normal chat clients do that, I mean, "chat". If you want to send them jumpy frogs and stupid animations, then either you are braindamaged or have nothing to do. I would prefer a real meeting in a bar/pub, real talk, and real frogs.

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RE[6]: Baloney
by slight on Tue 12th Sep 2006 16:32 in reply to "RE[5]: Baloney"
slight Member since:
2006-09-10

Funny that, I live in Europe too, and yes most people on my contact list are on MSN. Personally I prefer Jabber but each to their own.

Anyway my point is that I have 63 people in my contact list on MSN, the vast majority of whom are non-technical, and do you know how many times someone has tried to start a video chat with me? None, not once, never happened.

Know how many times I've heard someone say they use the video in MSN? Not once until I read these posts.

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RE[6]: Baloney
by devurandom on Tue 12th Sep 2006 18:13 in reply to "RE[5]: Baloney"
devurandom Member since:
2005-07-06

Odd. I just videochatted with a girl using aMSN 0.95 on Gentoo Linux yesterday ;) . It has pretty good webcam support.

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RE[7]: Baloney
by jziegler on Wed 13th Sep 2006 10:23 in reply to "RE[5]: Baloney"
jziegler Member since:
2005-07-14

Thom? When did you move to Jupiter's moon? ;)

Last I checked (seconds ago), I still live in Europe. I did whole my life. I don't have an MSN account. None of my friends do. Less than half of them are geeks, rest would be those "average Joes". And Janes.

And I have Ekiga running. Best soft-phone for SIP I found. Until I move and get my Linksys "hard"-phone.

MSN might be popular in .nl. I have no idea. ICQ and Jabber (and webchats) lead the way in .sk and .cz. AFAIK GaduGadu is most popular in .pl and virtually unkown elsewhere.

As an editor of this site, you should be well above the discussed issues to not make such broad generalizations.

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